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Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Micheal, Apr 18, 2002.
This is terrible!
If our soldiers got killed by the enemy, although sad, I can still understand. After all, it's war. What maddens me is that we're helping the US and US bomb kills us.
What a tragic occurence.
"Friendly Fire" That's the king of oxymorons.
It is very sad, but even in war, accidents do happen.
Yes its unfortunate, but considering how many sorties and bombs have been dropped since the start there has been very few friendly fire incidents. Accidents will happen, war is a dangerous business.
People die in war. There have been many other stupid deaths during this war.
Yet another tragedy tied to the acts of the evil scum responsible for the events of September 11.
This is another reson why war is stupid.
I don't wanna go off on a tangent and kill this thread, but I simply want you guys to THINK about Vietnam and the numerous comparisons you can draw between it and the war in Afghanistan. (hint: unknown enemy).
Tottally disgusting. A terrible tragedy. How could this happen? In a time where there are so many technologies at work, how could this type of thing happen. A very sad day. I think we deserve an explanation for this.
Have we ever truly gotten a full explanation ever, yet?
"I'm sorry, but in times of war we won't answer certain question b/c the evil ones are listening?
(in cop-out voice)"
but I simply want you guys to THINK about Vietnam and the numerous comparisons you can draw between it and the war in Afghanistan.
The problem in Vietnam was not that we had an unknown enemy - we could easily define that. Rather we had no easy method of identifying an enemy from a friend, or a soldier from a civilian. In that regard the two wars are simular, as in both cases the people we fight freely use civilians as their foot soldiers.
However just because the battle isn't easily fought doesn't mean it shouldn't be fought.
In a time where there are so many technologies at work, how could this type of thing happen.
The more complicated a system is, the more possibilities exist for it to fail. Technology doesn't always simplify warfare. In the end it is always a human being at the trigger.
Accidents will happen, war is a dangerous business.
24% of those killed in the Gulf War (coalition losses) were due to friendly fire.
I'm sure no one feels worse than the pilot who let the bomb go. But, the soldiers know that they are in harm's way.
My condolences to our friends to the North.
One of the guys killed lived just outside of Ottawa in Stittsvile Ontario.
My boss told me that he heard on the radio that the pilot who dropped the bomb was told not to but he thought they were shooting at him so he dropped it anyway. Obviously that could just be a rumour but it's hard to find any information on what really happened.
Either way I don't think this should turn into "finger pointing". They are all fighting for the same thing and I just hope that we can learn from this so it doesn't happen again.
I just feel sorry for the families that have to live with this tragic loss.
Just another reason to continue this campaign against terror. While questions do need to be asked, answers sought and accountability required, I agree that this is a terrible thing. Some political posturing will be inevitable, however, as a former member of the Canadian Forces, I hope that the result will be a better working relationship that enhances the effectiveness of both our military organizations in a multi-national operation.
Speaking of technology failing, anybody see the short CNN bit about the army wanting to do unmanned combat? Like those armed spy drones and unmanned ground vehicles?
A little disturbing for quite a few reasons.
One of the guys I now work with was in the forces and knew one of the men that died. He called up one of his old buddies from airborne and it turns out he knew a second of the men....
it sure hit home at work the last couple of days.
God bless all the UN forces working all around the world, god bless the families of these men, and others that have diied in times of war
My condolences Canada. Thank you for your willingness to be there.
When a fireman runs into a burning building and does not make it out, it is a tragedy of heroic proportions. When a fireman dies driving to his job, he is no less the hero, but what wasted hopes for the next victim who needs his rescuing.
There is an old poem I’ve always loved, in part:
It is bitter earnestness
That makes beauty; the mind
knows, grown adult.
The flight of planets is nothing nobler; all the arts lose virtue
Against the essential reality
Of creatures going about their business among the equally
Earnest elements of nature.
Boats in a Fog – Robinson Jeffers