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Nathan V

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My friend is 17, but his parents still won't let him watch R-rated movies. His parents know nothing about movies, though, and I was thinking if he ordered Canadian dvd's he'd be fine because, to my understanding, a Canadian dvd doesn't list the MPAA rating, just the Canadian rating (14a, etc.). I just wanted to make sure that they don't. Can somebody confirm? Or better yet, is there a place (like dvdempire) that has back cover scans for Canadian dvd's?

Thanks very much,
Nathan
 

Paul_Stachniak

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In fact many American DVDs, such as Warner Brothers and Paramount already list them on their DVDs.

However, your little plan has a fatal flaw. What is '14a' in Canada, is still an R in America. I doubt anyone is gonna let their kid watch the Matrix just because the Canadian say so, but take your chance.

On a side note, our rating system is a joke. I haven't had a problem getting into a R rated movie since I turned 13. I was only stopped twice; during American Psycho (which incidentally I saw a day later when the staff changed) and Jackass (which they stopped my when I was 19, still I got out my ID). I think most porn movies are 14A in Canada. :D
 

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Given that he's 17, I'd just go see them theatrically.

Depending on the manufacturer, they may print the same disc for US and Canada so then it would have the MPAA rating. Typically Disney/Miramax/Touchstone are the most likely to have Canada only packaging.
 

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Jeff, I'd like to add on to that list, as I deal with it on a regular basis. Any film released by Alliance Atlantis, which encompasses Newline Titles, as you mentioned Miramax, Dimension, USAFilms, and a partner ship with Universal has emphasis on the Canadian rating, and often excludes the US. However, Universal prints both ratings. As does Dreamworks, but I'm not sure.

The only boxes that aren't affect are Fox, Columbia/Tristar, MGM, and Warner.

Touchstone and other Disney titles, generally add little Canadian Flags on the back of the packaging, and keep the rest identical to its US Counterpart.

So Nate, your friend is best off getting Alliance Titles from Canada. But I hope you like french, cause you're gonna get plenty of it.
 

Nathan V

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Yeah, he has no difficulty seeing them theatrically, security around here is a joke, but naturally he still wants some titles on dvd; in particular The Pianist, Gangs of New York, Black Hawk Down, and Punch-Drunk Love. Those last two are Columbia, so I guess he can forget about those.
But Gangs of NY is Miramax, so that should be ok, and I have no idea who made The Pianist (Focus? Lions Gate?), but the Canadian 3-disc is a completely different release than the US. But the US Pianist is by Universal; does that mean the Canadian release will have both ratings printed on?

Thanks,
Nathan
 

Jeff Kleist

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Lion's Gate does Canadian Pianist.

If he's that worried, he should buy them and hide them. Something like The Pianist they'd never know was R unless they looked anyway. His parents should be worrying about a lot more important things
 

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Nathan, I wouldn't think security woudl be an issue. MPAA guidelines for R say "under 17 must be accompanied by parent or guardian." Of course, this isn't followed. I don't think so many teenagers would have wanted to see American Pie 2 if they had to sit next to their parents.
 

Nathan V

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Yeah, the whole rating system is ludicrous. (I know, it's been said before, but it bears repeating). XXX is more appropriate than Gosford Park? Hannibal and The Insider have same rating? What?
Hopefully somebody'll fix that soon. How old is Jack Valenti, anyway?


So, lemme get this straight, if Lions Gate's doing The Pianist, it won't have 'R' printed on the back cover?
 

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I actually tend to appreciate the Canadian ratings system. most R rated films come here as 14A because, really, the MPAA has funny ideas about what young adults should and should not see...
 

Jeff Kleist

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I frankly think the most ludicrous rule is the *3 f-ck's and you're R* rule. Find me a 6 year old who doesn't know the word. Family Business and The Insider should have been PG. Hell, Matrix was a bare PG-13 IMO.

What we need is MORE violence, violence with CONSEQUENCES. Wolverine gutted at least 10 people in X2, there should have been blood spraying and screaming. The point is that if you show consequences, you make sure that the fantasy has enough reality so as to be mostly real in kids' minds
 

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Dude, Matrix was R, as are the forthcoming sequels.

Or are you implying that it should have been PG-13, because I totally agree with you there.
 

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The way I understand it, Matrix was borderline. However, it had a gunshot to the head, which is automatic R.
 

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What we need is MORE violence, violence with CONSEQUENCES. Wolverine gutted at least 10 people in X2, there should have been blood spraying and screaming. The point is that if you show consequences, you make sure that the fantasy has enough reality so as to be mostly real in kids' minds
I agree with your message, but X2 isn't the best example. Hugh Jackman actually managed to look very distraught after his first killing. (guilt, remorse, etc.) After that it was comic-book-standard remorseless killing (TM) though. Still, that's a lot more than you'll find in almost any other PG-13 american blockbuster. This is ironic, given X2's comic-book origins.

What really puzzles me about american ratings is why bare mammary glands in totally non-sexual situations merit an instant R rating. (Except in Titanic's case. Hoards of horny teenage males probably thought that was the best PG-13 movie ever!) What's so evil about sex anyways? While I'm sure many will disapprove, I'd far rather teenagers had sex instead of beating/knifing/shooting each other. Sure, STD's suck, but the survival rate is a lot higher! Heck, a teenage swingers club would have done wonders for Columbine! (Seriously, all that kid needed was some free love!)
 

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Depends on the company. I just got a Canadian version of Little Big Man (too cheap to pass up, even if it is bilingual) from Paramount and it contains both the Canadian rating and the MPAA rating.
 

Jeff Kleist

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Terry, no one can figure it out but Jack Valenti

Basically it's easily traced back to the fact that all the wackjobs who wanted to live their lives denying fun to themselves or anyone (among other things) got kicked/forced out of Europe by people that didn't want to put up with their BS. Unfortunately 400 years later we're still being dogged by their descendants.
 

Dan Rudolph

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The Fifth Element also had bare breasts in a PG-13. The MPAA can be rather arbitrary though and they refuse to tell anyone about their methodology.
 

Al Stuart

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The way I understand it, Matrix was borderline. Howver, it had a gunshot to the head, which is automatic R.
And yet Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon had an object piercing the head, killing the victim, with a clear view, and it got a PG-13.

The ratings system is completely arbitrary, especailly when you compare the completely innocuous moveis that get R ratings. Rushmore? Bottle Rocket?

And then there are movies with even more "fucks" than either of those two gems. Congo, I counted 6. All the President's Men, at least 8, and that was a PG! Granted there was no PG-13 at the time, but notoriety and studio pressure often gets more ratings leniency. The Exorcist gets an R and Orgazmo gets an NC-17? What the *****?


*Edited in order to receive a PG-13 rating.
 

Al Stuart

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The Fifth Element also had bare breasts in a PG-13. The MPAA can be rather arbitrary though and they refuse to tell anyone about their methodology.
And Radioland Murders has a scene with at least 20 breasts, and that got a PG. Guess who produced that "masterpeice"?.....:rolleyes

George Lucas
 

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