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Can your job legally put cameras in the bathroom?

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Frederick, Aug 15, 2002.

  1. Frederick

    Frederick Second Unit

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    A question for all you "legals" out there. I was in one of the stalls of one of our bathrooms and I happened to look up, and there's a vent. Call me paranoid, but it got me thinking: with things the way they are now days, with safety being a huge concern, could a company legally put cameras in the bathrooms? maybe not over the stalls, and not small mom-and-pop stores or small privately owned companies. I'm talking about corporations (I work in the technology division of a bank). I don't think my job would, but could they?



    Freddy C.
     
  2. Charles J P

    Charles J P Cinematographer

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    I dont think it would be legal. Its a pretty major violation of privacy. The thing would be, someone could do it and if they ever caught you doing something, they could come up with a bogus reason to fire you, but they could never use the video tape as evidence.
     
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    I've heard that it is legal to use audio surveillance but not visual surveillance in bathrooms.
     
  4. Joseph DeMartino

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    I don't think they can. Even the Hotel-Casinos in Vegas, which monitor almost every square foot of their hotels (save guest rooms, obviously), can't and don't put cameras in the bathrooms, not even outside the stalls.
    The laws may vary by state, but I'd be astonished if anyone could get away with this, anywhere.
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    $5.00 says Fredrick hasn't used that particular stall since. [​IMG]
     
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    Audio surveillance? I'll keep it down then.
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  6. Frederick

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    Joe [​IMG],
    The vents each cover two stalls. They're fairly large, and dark inside. I haven't seen any blinking lights, though [​IMG]. That's what made me think about it. If there was, I'd never know. Not that I'm doing anything worth documenting in there. And then we have a really large mirror over the sinks. I put my hand up against it a few times, just to be sure it wasn't a 2-way. I think I've been watching too many movies ...
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    Actually, I think it's the other way around. Video surveillance is allowed but audio surveillance isn't because of wiretap laws. I believe that's how some people were able to escape prosecution for putting cameras in dressing rooms, etc. Some states have closed such a loophole too though...
     
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    Frederick, that vent is a decoy. The camera is actually hidden inside the toilet paper dispenser. [​IMG]
    Seriously, I'd be more worried about individuals installing hidden cameras in the washrooms, not employers. You wouldn't believe where they're hiding those X-10 cameras these days.
     
  10. Neil M

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    Video cameras can be used in bathrooms to monitor people in the stalls. I'm not entirely sure that it can be recorded though. The reason is that bathrooms in stores and other public places are public areas. They do it to protect people. I've heard news reports where they used them to catch people in public sex acts. They also have a camera in the bathroom on Big Brother 3. So it isn't uncommon. I'm sure there are strict guidelines to it so that people are protected from public showings of the videos. I wouldn't worry about companies using cameras. They have too much to lose by using the cameras illegally. I would worry about my perverted co-workers installing their own.
     
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    O wouldn't think so. I know at work (A&P) it is illegal to do so. Cameras on the doorto the washroom is fine.

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    Yes its very legal to put cameras in bathrooms to record. There are websites all over having just this "feature". [​IMG]
    The trick of course is that the participants must know its there, and must have given concent (and be of concenting age!)
     
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