Can 'Spy Kids 3D' work on DVD?

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  1. Travis_W

    Travis_W Supporting Actor

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    I'm a fan of 3D films and as much as it pangs me to go see this film (not a big fan of the first two) I've heard good things about the 3D effects. But when this comes to DVD next year can we expect it to be in 3D or will it just drop the 'D' from the title?
     
  2. Eric F

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    It can and it will.

    I'm hoping they offer a "no-3D" option, because, frankly, the analglyph glasses give me a headache.
     
  3. Peter Kline

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    It may work, but images will be quite dark. A no 3D option would mean a separate version of the film.
     
  4. Aaron Cohen

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    I'm hoping it's in 3D. I don't understand why some titles are being stripped of 3D like House of Wax (still a wonderful release despite) upon their dvd release. I heard somewhere that 3D could not be done on dvd....but I'm assuming that is just not true. Especially since my Freddy's Dead DVD includes a 3D segment that though I find overly cheesy and dumb....is still 3D. Anyone know what it is used to get this 3D on dvd?
     
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    Since the 3D effects for the theatrical release was created using the red/blue "Anaglyph" format, my guess is that it will be provided in 3D, (with perhaps a 2D version available as an extra).

    The anaglyph format of 3D presentation is the only one that will easily convert over for viewing on DVD, and will be visible on the greatest variety of displays.

    Other methods of 3D effects;

    "Pulfrich" method using one darkened lens (invented by a man with only one good eye by the way) works works with motion so the camera must always be in movement around the subject. The Judds had a 3D music video created with this process... very cool effects, but one tends to get nauseous after too long viewing a spinning video. I have a "Wet & Wild 3D" DVD and the "effects" really "pop-out" at ya! [​IMG]

    "Polarized glasses" as used with "Amityville 3-D", Friday the 13th part 3-D" and the terrible "Jaws 3-D" cannot be projected from a CRT.

    "LCD" (a.k.a. IMAX "shutter-glasses") glasses require that the display be interlaced in order to correctly synchronize with the LCD lenses for accurate reproduction. Most HD and HD ready televisions have built in line doublers so interlacing the signal cannot be done due to hardware limitation.

    Anaglyph, while far from perfect, can be easily and inexpensively ported over to DVD. It is viewable on all types of televisions with simple inexpensive glasses. If done well (which with recent technological developments thanks to James Cameron I am sure this will be as good as is currently possible), the movie will come off as well as the theatrical release. If done poorly, it will look like the crappy conversion to DVD done on "Comin At Ya!".

    I say that "perhaps" they will include a 2D version on the DVD, but what I really mean is that "I hope" that they do. 3D is not for everyone. I am also a fan of 3D (see my anaglyph photos on www.spencesplace.com), but it is nice to have the option of watching the movie "flat", even if for only the purpose of comparison.

    I believe that "Freddy's Dead" was done with the anaglyph process, but I have never seen the movie.
     
  6. Eric F

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    While the 3D anaglyph effect might be cool (mostly lost on me) the first time, after the 3rd or 4th viewing even the kids won't want to bother with the glasses anymore. They're certain to get lost or destroyed too.

    Too bad they didn't do an Imax shutter-glasses version. Now that would have been cool.
     
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    I smell a two disc set coming then. One disc is 3d, the other is standard
     
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    Ok, I'm real interested in this 3D stuff, but I know squat about it... Can anyone point to a good internet site that explains the different 3D processes used for movies?
    Thanx in advance.
     
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    Anyone know what process they use for the T2-3D attraction at Universal Studios?
     
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    T2-3D uses polarized projection, with viewers wearing simple polarized glasses.
     
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    I thought the movie was horrible (it was very blurry). Watching the movie with the glasses on was not much better than having them off !![​IMG]
     
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    To Me, polarized projection is the only 3D method that works.

    I took the kids the see SK3 at the cinema and found 1 3 second segment in the whole film that worked (where they are snowboaring down the lava).

    After seeing the polarized projection in movie studios in Orlando & LA, I was hoping to see SK3 that way but when it wasn't, I dreaded the worst and discovered I was right with the whole film looking crap.
     
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    I think you are all being entirely too hard on the red/blue process as used in SK:3D. I work at a megaplex and spend a fair number of shifts in projection. I was very impressed with the effects produced by this simple but effective system. I realise that anaglyph 3D does cause some people eye strain (something acknowledged numerous times in the film itself), but in order to reach its audience, anaglyph was the most practical route (more screens, no need for theatre conversion,less expensive admission). I too, would like to see a non 3D version included as an alternate on the DVD, but also know that such a version would do damage to the narrative structure of the film. What I would like to see is a 3D calibration mode included on the disc to allow proper cancellation of the red and blue elements; this would go a long way to reducing eye strain and ensuring that the audience gets the most accurate 3D experience possible.
     
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    Nice signature, Stephen. [​IMG]
     
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    I read somewhere that the red/blue type of 3D film could be done on DVD, but that the effect wouldn't work if one used progressive scan. Is this true?
     
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    I could definitely see a two disc happening, it might be interesting to watch the 2D version anyway...what am I saying, the only reason why I wanted to see it was because of the 3D[​IMG] .
     

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