can i do better than these monsters i just bought ? (1 Viewer)

[Scot Pritchard]

I just bought monster m series 1.4bw speaker cables for my system which includes B&K ref 30 pre amp a rotel 985 mkll power amp and B&W cdm1nt fronts and matching center. I was wandering if the monster was a good choice or if there is better out there for the price (300.00)for 15 ft. pair.

 

[rodneyH]

careful, there are people on this site that claim anything more than a basic 12g wire from home depot is a waste, and on the other end, people who say that Monster isn't "good enough" and you need better. Monsters M line is very good for the $$ IMHO, I have the biwire Z series (same exact price as your M, and a very similar cable internally, BUT I just like the mesh cover on the Z more) with my B&W cdm7NT's it works great for me.

does monster make junk?-Yes in their lower lines (well I wouldn't call it "junk"), it isn't as good as the average consumer thinks (some think that if you have "monster" you have the pinnicle of cables, even if it is thier cheapest cables)

Are they over priced?-imho, the cheaper stuff is over priced, and you can get equal quality cables in a AR or RS cable for about 25% less, BUT the Z and M series are very good cables, and worth the $$$, Monster does a lot of R&D with these and it isn't just a marketing sceme like some like to say it is.

 

[Scot Pritchard]

thanks for that info. i didnt think monster was as bad as every body says it is. i might just sticke with this wire and add some m series 950i innter conect from pre amp to amp.

 

[Luke M]

Monster is the Bose of cables, i.e. what suckers buy. Stores love them because the profit margin is huge.

Save your money and buy generic.

 

[Bhagi Katbamna]

Monster is the Bose of cables, i.e. what suckers buy. Stores love them because the profit margin is huge.

It is amusing you mention profit margins of Monster when there are speaker cables and interconnects made by other companies that charge a few thousand dollars per foot(not meters).

 

[Mike Matheson]

Monster is the Bose of cables, i.e. what suckers buy.

Kind of strong words Luke given Scot has indicated he's a buyer himself. Maybe there's another, gentler way to express similar sentiment?
Elbert on AVS said it well in this post.
Regards,
Mike

 

[rodneyH]

I gotta agree with Elbert, that is my exact opinion.

I too think it is funny how people talk about how Monster is over priced, yet never blink when they here of people spending thousands on Transparent, Kimber, MIT, etc...

My dads buddy just got a pair of speaker cable from Transparent that cost $45k!!! so, are they the "bose" of cable??

btw, Monster has done more research on cables than any of those other companies (don't get me wrong, I also run MIT, Audioquest and Kimber, so I don't think Monster is the "end all", but dollar for dollar the M series is just as good as any of those other brands.)

Bose=expensive (300% over priced) with BAD performance

Monster (NON-M series)=slightly over priced (25%) with the same performance as its competitors (AR/RS)

Monster M-series=actually is very good for the $$$.

why people always forget the M series, is beyond me, it is a little bit like the Porsche 911 owners out there saying a little BMW 3 series could never compete with a 911, YET they selectively forgot to consider the M3, M roadster and M coupe. (BTW, for the $$ the M3 and 911 are my favorite cars so I am not ripping on either). The statement is true when talking about the 330 or less, but you can't neglect the M cars.

 

[rodneyH]

btw, anyone who has talken apart the M interconnects would realize that they are very well built (soldering and materials), so much so that I think it is better built that the MIT (interconnect 2 iirc) and Audioquest (diamond backs), of which I have taken both apart just because of curiosity. If you look at the diameter of the cable, the soldering and the quality of metal being used on the binding posts, Monster WINS everytime (that doesn't actually mean that they sound better, but the materials are first rate-which IMHO means you aren't getting ripped off (on the other hand you have Bose, that is made out of all cheap plastic and total junk-THIS IS WHY THE BOSE COMPARISON DOESN'T FIT!!!)

 

[David King]

Monster cable expensive? How can this be, they are sold by amazon.com.

Get that Amazon.com credit card and use it to make your normal purchases. Stack up some Amazon Gift certificates from doing that and just wait for them to have one of those $20 off $100 promo coupons in electronics.

There is no need to even pay for monster brand, how can it be consider expensive? I haven't found a way to do this at ratshack yet.

It should also be noted that Amazon sells some AR too.

 

[rodneyH]

another point, how many anti-Monster people are there that have ever heard of the Sigma line (let alone heard it?). Monster can be a little like Sony, most "audiophiles" use to think that Sony was pretty much junk (b/c of the name), but the ES line is pretty good and the SACD players are awesome (especially the SCD-1 and 777es units), sure "Sony" doesn't have a flashy name, but by NO means is it "junk" just b/c it is Sony.

 

[Nick P]

My dads buddy just got a pair of speaker cable from Transparent that cost $45k!!!

Am I seeing things or does this say someone spent $45,000 on a pair of cables!!!

 

[rodneyH]

Nick, yes, that is right and he uses them on speakers that "only" cost about $15,000.

 

[Steve K.H.]

My dads buddy just got a pair of speaker cable from Transparent that cost $45k!!!

That's just wrong. (0r dumb)

 

[Paul_Fisher]

Anybody that has 45K to spend on speaker cables needs to find something better to spend their money on. Jeez, I'm just out of college trying to find a job that will pay me that much a year and this guy is buying speaker cable that costs that much. ridiculous...

 

[rodneyH]

guys, the problem is that people who have that much to spend on cables all ready have everything else (I keep telling myself the samething, for that $ I could have a BMW M3 (almost)), but these guys don't "dream" about M3's b/c they already drive Ferarri's and S class MB's. It is a different world

 

[Luke M]

Here's a nice article on how to select speaker wire:
http://www.sundial.net/~rogerr/wire.htm

 

[Nick P]

Nick, yes, that is right and he uses them on speakers that "only" cost about $15,000.

15K for speakers I can kinda-sorta understand although I could never afford them but $45,000 for cables is absolutely certifiably insane!!