I often listen to my system without the subwoofer, trying to use my front speakers -3 dB point of 32 hz. I often feel as though I'm missing some of the bass impact which I had in my older system. My old system had sealed speakers with a -3dB point of 45hz and a 50 watt per channel amp with a loudness control on my new receiver. It really bugs me that not only does my new receiver not have a loudness control, but I also have no bass and treble in source direct. Now with my newer setup, I have ported speakers with similar, if not less distored bass down to 28 hz or so in room, but a steeper drop off there and no loudness control. Forgive me for throwing even more processing into the mix but I am desparately nostalgic of loudness controls. I like music at medium to loud levels, but often, I don't like having to turn up the entire volume because I want more bass. I love full bass sound and I notice that when I turn up the volume I reach a point where the bass seems full in comparison and then I turn it up higher and it seems as thought the midrange and treble gain more than the bass does. I imagine my 105 watt x 3 receiver has its limits into 6 ohms, but I feel cheated sometimes. Often I will hear smooth low bass, while other times I feel I am lacking that full warm bottom end bass levels. On the web I have seen plans and schematics for loudness controls and they interest me. Is there anything out there that would be decent enough to use? Frankly, I never noticed the difference in sound quality when I defeated the tone controls on my older amp. I want a loudness control!