Ok this may have been a little dumb on my part, so I wont take any offense if you all call me a moron. As some of you might know my 15" Dayton's spider ripped a couple weeks back & PE doesn't have them in stock. I sent in the sub & they gave me credit for it & would send me a new one when they arrived. But being the impatient person I am I ordered a 12" DVC to hold me over. I had been wonting to build another one anyway so I figured why not. Any way I cannot for the life of me get any of the box design software to work on my computer for some reason. Every program I have tried will only come up with a half screen & I cannot figure out how to fix it or what is causing it to do this. So I just went out on a limb a threw a sono together for something quick. What I ended up doing was using a previous 16" sono cut to 38&1/2" inside cap to cap. It is ported using a 12" by 6" port & is stuffed using app 18oz of fill. I must say I was pretty surprised with how it sounds. I figured it would just be a POS since I did just try out some dumb luck & had no idea what kind of tuning point it would be at. It by no way is comparable to my other sono ( witch is done right ) but it still has some damn good output. I have played quite a few of my favorite movies & cd's & it is very smooth with everything. I did do a sweep from my Avia disk & its really strong in the mid 40's to 30's & starts quieting down at around 28hz. Anyway just out of curiosity can anybody tell me what kind of tuning point I ended up at. Like I said call me a moron if you wont, I was just more curious to see just what would happen if I made a stupid guess. I do intend to build a proper enclosure once I get my 15" back, I just wonted to have some fun wile I waited.