Cable coax - ok to have a break in the line?

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  1. Paul D G

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    So, I'm adding an extension to my house and when the electrician was here wiring up the new room I had him run a new cable line to the living room with RG6. I was very happy.

    Today the workers come back to start on the roof and for some inexplicable reason they cut all the lines going to that area of the house just outside the constuction area. (they come up thru the wall in the hall on the second floor, then go into the new room. The living room line drops under the floor while the other lines (cable TV and modem) go thru the beams in the wall)

    My question is: is it ok to just couple the two ends together, or should I demand a complete re-running of the severed lines? I mean, I can be an ass and demand the re-running but if I'm not going to notice a difference joining the two together...

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    What pisses me off is that there was absolutely no reason to cut these lines. They mostly worked on the roof, but they also worked on a wall where no power lines were going to at all. It'd be one thing if they sawed thru the lines accidently, but this was a deliberate cut. Then the bastards knew what they did as I found the cable output plate unscrewed from the wall and hanging there, they didn't tell me, and they put a new board up covering the area where they cut the lines so I wouldn't find it.
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    -paul
     
  2. Chu Gai

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    well if the connection is made properly there likely won't be any degradation...however!!! connections are funny things and somewhere down the road possibly enough oxidation and other surface reactions with the copper may occur that one day you'll say to yourself, damn, this picture doesn't look so good. then what're you gonna do? at the very least, you'll be inconvenienced.
    i'd tell the person or company that i contracted with of what occurred and ask them if
    1) they'd prefer that your electrician rerun the cable and bill them directly.
    2) see 1) but tell them you want the costs associated with the rewiring deducted off the final price. if they agree, get it in writing.
    3) tell them they can contract with their own electrician to run the wiring.
    in all cases make sure that rg6 isn't copper clad steel.
    quite possibly they'll tell you they'll fix the problem by using a connector. my reply to that is 'if i wanted the electrician to install the wire, cut it, then splice it back, i'd have told him to do that. the contractor has insurance that deals with damage to your home. this was damage. if he continues to protest indicate that your final settle up will include the difference in the reinstallation and that you'll be quite pleased to not only defend the matter in small claims court but to also contact the local better business bureau of the shoddy work.
    you're not being an ass IMHO. you're demanding accountability and responsibility. that's pretty reasonable to me.
     
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    I’m a little confused, Paul. You mention having an electrician make a run of RG-6, but them say the workers cut “all the lines” (plural). What were the other lines?
    Chu’s advice is excellent, from both an legal and installation standpoint. The contractor needs to eat this, pure and simple.
    You should have no problem if the RG-6 ends up coupled – as long as it is done right. That’s the caveat. It’s pretty well known that something like 90% of all F- connectors are not installed properly. I certainly would not have an electrician do it. He probably only has cheap $10 crimpers. If you go the coupled route, get a CATV or communications specialist, who will have the right tools.
    Can’t comment on the prospect of splicing the other wires, since I don’t know what they are...
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    Make em fix it, especially when they tried to cover it up. That's what you paid for.
     
  5. Paul D G

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    Sorry, I was a little rushed when I wrote that.

    There are three lines involved: the upgraded line to the living room, and the two new lines to the new room (TV and Internet). All three were cut.

    What happened today: When I discoved the problem I left a voice mail for the contractor saying I'd like him to stop by to see and discuss. The next morning I found one of the workers trying to repair the lines. I didn't say anything as it was clear he had no idea what he was doing and I was going to use it to further my argument that the work was shoddy. (furthermore it took the guy the better part of an hour! i could have fixed it in five minutes)

    I went out to run some errands and when I came back the electrician was there (a suprise as he is based pretty far away) talking to the contractor on the phone and examining the cables. The electrcian sounded annoyed and I mentioned that I was unhappy with what happened. He responded that he doesn't blame me. When he got off the phone he told me that they would be re-running the lines, he just couldn't do it that day. This was no big deal as long as it's done before the drywall goes up.

    So all is well so far; the contractor remains in my mind a good guy (tho I would have appreciated a call from him) in setting things right, and the electrian and lead worker themselves had no idea why they would have needed to cut these cables.

    -paul
     
  6. Chu Gai

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    out of curiousity, do you know what wire he's running? glad to hear though that the lines are being rerun.
     
  7. Paul D G

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    RG-6

    -paul
     

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