Press Release BVHE Press Release: The Sound of Music (1965) (4k UHD) (2 Viewers)

[DarkVader]

I don't think it's too bad. It's cleaner and more modern. The original poster was not much to look at. Profoundly unmemorable and they can't just use that because it's been repurposed ad infinitum. An award-winning entertainment marketing exec - a former CMO - once told me, "Something already old doesn't need any help to look older."
PS - the "running towards the viewer" visual trope that was used in the poster was used to greater effect in the original poster for The Great Escape.

The original poster is CLASSIC and illustrated by the great Howard Terpning! How dare you!!!

 

[Garysb]

Voice dubbing was mentioned a couple of times in the NY Times 1965 review. I guess the My Fair Lady situation was still fresh.

"Looking as handsome and phony as a store-window Alpine guide, Mr. Plummer acts the hard-jawed, stiff-backed fellow with equal artificiality. And when he puts his expressions and his gestures to somebody else's singing of the wistful "Edelweiss" (which, incidentally, was the last song that the late Mr. Hammerstein wrote), it is just a bit too painfully mawkish for the simple sentiments of that nice song, "

"Peggy Wood as the mother abbess beams benignly beneath her cowl, but she blessedly turns away from the camera when somebody with a much younger voice--maybe Marni Nixon--sings "Climb Every Mountain" for her."

Was it generally known in 1965 specifically that Plummer and Woods were dubbed? No screen credit was given to the ghost voices.

 

[John Maher_289910]

The east coast critics that blasted The Sound of Music, were all of the same ilk. Pauline Kael being the worst among them. Virtually none of them reviewed the film as a film. They might as well be speaking about the Broadway show. If you have disdain for the source material, and just mention what you dislike about the source material, you're a really lousy critic of film. I believe that is Bosley Crowther's review you are quoting. As I recall it, he knows too much about the film, like locations used. I believe he was tipped off about the dubbing. Why in the world he would think he was even possibly hearing Marni Nixon's voice would have to be explained to me. Also, he indicated (unless I mixing up reviews), that Wise pretty much just duplicated the stage play, which couldn't be further from the truth. It, along with most the

Voice dubbing was mentioned a couple of times in the NY Times 1965 review. I guess the My Fair Lady situation was still fresh.

"Looking as handsome and phony as a store-window Alpine guide, Mr. Plummer acts the hard-jawed, stiff-backed fellow with equal artificiality. And when he puts his expressions and his gestures to somebody else's singing of the wistful "Edelweiss" (which, incidentally, was the last song that the late Mr. Hammerstein wrote), it is just a bit too painfully mawkish for the simple sentiments of that nice song, "

"Peggy Wood as the mother abbess beams benignly beneath her cowl, but she blessedly turns away from the camera when somebody with a much younger voice--maybe Marni Nixon--sings "Climb Every Mountain" for her."

Was it generally known in 1965 specifically that Plummer and Woods were dubbed? No screen credit was given to the ghost voices.

The east coast critics that blasted The Sound of Music, were all of the same ilk. Pauline Kael being the worst among them. Virtually none of them reviewed the film as a film. They might as well be speaking about the Broadway show. If you have disdain for the source material, and just mention what you dislike about the source material, you're a really lousy critic of film. I believe that is Bosley Crowther's review you are quoting. As I recall it, he knows too much about the film, like locations used. I believe he was tipped off about the dubbing. Why in the world he would think he was even possibly hearing Marni Nixon's voice would have to be explained to me. Also, he indicated (unless I mixing up reviews), that Wise pretty much just duplicated the stage play, which couldn't be further from the truth. It, along with most of the other negative reviews are fairly worthless.

 

[Garysb]

The east coast critics that blasted The Sound of Music, were all of the same ilk. Pauline Kael being the worst among them. Virtually none of them reviewed the film as a film. They might as well be speaking about the Broadway show. If you have disdain for the source material, and just mention what you dislike about the source material, you're a really lousy critic of film. I believe that is Bosley Crowther's review you are quoting. As I recall it, he knows too much about the film, like locations used. I believe he was tipped off about theYoiu dubbing. Why in the world he would think he was even possibly hearing Marni Nixon's voice would have to be explained to me. Also, he indicated (unless I mixing up reviews), that Wise pretty much just duplicated the stage play, which couldn't be further from the truth. It, along with most of the other negative reviews are fairly worthless.

You are correct in all your assumptions. The review was written by Bosley Crowther, he mentions how close the film was to the stage version, and he knew the locations where the film was shot. I thought Bill Lee matched Christopher Plummer's speaking voice well.

 

[JoshZ]

If you have disdain for the source material, and just mention what you dislike about the source material, you're a really lousy critic of film.

Can't disagree with you more on this point. If the source material stinks, no amount of fancy filmmaking will save it.

I'm not necessarily saying that's the case for The Sound of Music, though to be frank, I probably lean more towards Crowther's opinion of it while my wife leans more toward yours.

 

[Matt Hough]

He thought Peggy Wood's dubber sounded young? He wasn't listening very astutely.

 

[richardburton84]

He thought Peggy Wood's dubber sounded young? He wasn't listening very astutely.

Agreed, especially when one considers that Marni Nixon actually appears in the film as one of the nuns during “Maria” to compare the respective singers. On that note, I thought Margery McKay (the singer who actually dubbed Peggy Wood’s singing) did a very good job of matching Wood’s voice during her numbers.

 

[Chelsearicky]

Voice dubbing was mentioned a couple of times in the NY Times 1965 review. I guess the My Fair Lady situation was still fresh.

"Looking as handsome and phony as a store-window Alpine guide, Mr. Plummer acts the hard-jawed, stiff-backed fellow with equal artificiality. And when he puts his expressions and his gestures to somebody else's singing of the wistful "Edelweiss" (which, incidentally, was the last song that the late Mr. Hammerstein wrote), it is just a bit too painfully mawkish for the simple sentiments of that nice song, "

"Peggy Wood as the mother abbess beams benignly beneath her cowl, but she blessedly turns away from the camera when somebody with a much younger voice--maybe Marni Nixon--sings "Climb Every Mountain" for her."

Was it generally known in 1965 specifically that Plummer and Woods were dubbed? No screen credit was given to the ghost voices.

Not just 'My Fair Lady'......dubbing in musicals was expected then, and to point it out was not necessarily a dig at the actor. 'The Sound of Music' is heavily dubbed, but for some reason escapes the wrath of purists. It's always been the beneficiary of selective outrage in this area.

 

[Will Krupp]

It's always been the beneficiary of selective outrage in this area.

I'd hardly call it selective outrage. The leading lady (and star of the picture) isn't dubbed.

My Fair Lady dubs the leading lady and West Side Story dubs just about everybody. That's probably a more likely cause for the "wrath of purists."

 

[ahollis]

I'd hardly call it selective outrage. The leading lady (and star of the picture) isn't dubbed.

My Fair Lady dubs the leading lady and West Side Story dubs just about everybody. That's probably a more likely cause for the "wrath of purists."

Let alone Deborah Kerr in The King and I.

 

[Sam Favate]

Is there a date yet for this release?

 

[Ronald Epstein]

Is there a date yet for this release?

No official press release announcement as of yet, but I am expecting very shortly

 

[B-ROLL]

Let alone Deborah Kerr in The King and I.

And ironically, Marni Nixon was a dubber for nearly all of the films mentioned ... at least Disney gave her top billing on this LP vinyl disc analogue recording ...

 

[Matt Hough]

I can remember a Disneyland story and song LP of Mary Poppins starring Marni Nixon and Bill Lee, two of the more prolific dubbers of the Hollywood musical era.

 

[SwatDB]

I can remember a Disneyland story and song LP of Mary Poppins starring Marni Nixon and Bill Lee, two of the more prolific dubbers of the Hollywood musical era.

Jolly Holiday?

Ram: Bill Lee (Dubber)
Geese: Marni Nixon
Pig: Thurl Ravencroft

Need I say more?

Or perhaps you are referring to another song (not related to the Film Version of MP) I take it?

 

[Matt Hough]

Jolly Holiday?

Ram: Bill Lee (Dubber)
Geese: Marni Nixon
Pig: Thurl Ravencroft

Need I say more?

Or perhaps you are referring to another song (not related to the Film Version of MP) I take it?

I'm talking about a separate record album of Mary Poppins (not the soundtrack album) that starred Marni Nixon and Bill Lee doing the singing. As I recall, it was blue in color and had a silhouette of a flying Mary Poppins on the cover.

 

[Mark B]

I'm talking about a separate record album of Mary Poppins (not the soundtrack album) that starred Marni Nixon and Bill Lee doing the singing. As I recall, it was blue in color and had a silhouette of a flying Mary Poppins on the cover.

This is the album being referred to.

 

[SwatDB]

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This is the album being referred to.

Some bonus feature for a future CD release of an Expanded Soundtrack of MP, Just a suggestion.

 

[Steve Rothaus]

The Marni Nixon story-and-songs album was included in last year's seven record "Mary Poppins: The 60th Anniversary Collection." No CDs or downloads -- vinyl only. Retail price: $299.98.

https://www.disneymusicemporium.com/product/XVLP264/mary-poppins-60th-anniversary-vinyl-collection?srsltid=AfmBOoqvqaqFjKMKIB4IydCMLqXjMna_bIYd6IvSwSSZrYhY2wIh5KMO

 

[SwatDB]

Still not a complete score of MP '64, but thanks for the Info anyways

Any more TSOM subjects to talk about, before Fathom releases the film theatrically before 4K UHD release?