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KeithAP

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Maybe it is time we stop buying all titles from companies that have so little regard for the art that they sell or the consumers that purchase it. If all they care about is the average consumer let them try and make as much money off them as they do us. If they can, more power to them. As for me, Columbia titles will go on the rent list.


-Keith
 

Rain

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Keith, I think you'd make more of an impression by continuing to buy the OAR titles.

They need to know there is a demand for them.

If OAR consistently outsells non-OAR, eventually they'll have no choice but to give up on the non-OAR nonsense.
 

Jeff Kleist

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A printout of an online petition does NOTHING. Every page of that petition is worth maybe 1 phone call

Snail mail works wonders, HAND SIGNED petitions do wonders, phone calls do a lot of good. Full page ads in Variety do A LOT

If you want something changed, you have to take major, PUBLIC action.
 

Colin-H

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How much does a full page ad in Variety cost, Jeff?

I have 73 cents in my pocket. I would like to officially donate that to the cause.

Someone has to make one of those thermometer graphic things now.
 

Ronald Epstein

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Guys,

I would consider the idea of collecting
enough money to put a FULL PAGE ad in VARIETY
magazine for this cause.

This membership would need to collect between
$5,000-$10,000 for the ad, but the ad will
receive the attention of everyone in the industry.

The only reason I held back from using this
forum to collect the funds needed was because
I felt that members shouldn't be giving up their
hard-earned money for an ad that will probably
be noticed -- but ignored.

The studios are only going to do what suits
them financially -- not what the majority of
consumers want. DVD is run by the retailers
not by the studios.

If you guys really think we can raise the cash
we can help you guys put this together. Be
forewarned that the money you give to this cause
may very well be a wasted effort.

As a side note, I also agree that Columbia's
logic in releasing very unpopular titles in
full frame only not only makes no sense but
will have absolutely no affect on their hopes
of gaining full-frame support because of the
title's unpopularity.
 

John Berggren

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I think it could be a worthwhile effort, but I'm not sure if the contributions would add up. I know there are nearly 30,000 members, but how many are active, or inclined to participate?

The next question is how to develop a well thought out ad. At $5-10,000 it would be important to drive the entire OAR point home without being confused, unclear, or too targetted. "Release Snow Dogs and 84 Charing Cross Road in Widescreen" would be direct, but not get to the heart of the matter. "OAR or NO SALE" might get to the heart of the matter but not describe the situation to the uninitiated. A long paragraph addressing all of our concerns would be ignored.

So what's best?
 

Colin-H

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Pictures. Catchy headlines. Analogies (the Mona Lisa one seems to be popular). We are talking about something visual here... the best way to make the point is visually.

uhhh. and anyway. the 73 cents thing was meant as a joke. but hey, if the sparks is flying the sparks is flying and there's nothing i can do about that.
 

Jeff Kleist

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Ron, stated price of the ad is $2500 on Variety's web page. I don't know if that's only if you're camera ready or what.

I have personally been getting ready to try to raise money for an ad on Disney's butchering of Hong Kong movies
 

Colin-H

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For a small extra fee, you can send them a digital file instead of dealing with film yourself. (Of course, the file has to be properly prepared or else they're going to charge you more.)

 

Leon Liew

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I totally agree with Ron. The studio is only interested
in making money and reaping profits. It do not take into
account OAR enthusiasts love for the format and they only
act according to retail sales demand.

I will just have to be choosy when buying Columbia Tristar
titles and keep a look out for OAR releases only.It's an
uphill task to convince the studio.
 

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