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Bram Stoker's Dracula: Standard and Limited Edition (Blu-ray) Available for Preorder

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Ronald Epstein, Jul 29, 2015.

  1. Konstantinos

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    It looks like the original disc was too dark with some colors in some scenes off after all.
     
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    I may or may not pick this up (leaning towards it just for the additional commentary track), but if I do, I'm going for the standard packaging edition. Not quite seeing the appeal in paying $36 instead of $18 just to have it in a clear case instead of a blue one.
     
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    I just want to enjoy the new transfer - pre-ordered it in the regular case some time ago.
     
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    I'm just going from memory here, so I'll put on my flame suit, but the color seems to be more toward the DVD, especially the blue of Drac's specs. Just an initial observation from the Beaver caps - remain calm. :)
     
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  7. Konstantinos

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    I don't know if you have seen it, but here's how the special case is:




    No appeal to me there, and as I see to most people too.
     
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    Yes, it is more towards the DVD..


    It seems Coppola and Sony changed their mind from the earlier ""approved" version of the film that "without doubt" was "the absolute and correct version" of the film, with colors carefully "matched to the original print" , while all the earlier releases due to their limitations were "wrong".
     
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    I am deep into the Coppola retirement fund with my purchase of the Limited Edition of the re(?)-approved version. I have the Super-bit DVD and original Blu-ray release, and plan to compare all of them.
     
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    Can i get my money back on the last release since they claimed the colour timing was perfect, clearly that wasn't the case and i defended the last disc, i seem to recall Mr Harris thought it perfect too, i guess they took us for fools, what a revelation those screencaps are, the new 4K transfer has much better natural sharpness, the blur effect on the original release can be seen in those caps too, colours look better, i will wait for the UHD/Blu ray combination disc next year and pick it up then.
     
  11. Konstantinos

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    I don't remember hearing from Coppola's mouth that the colors were perfect and as they should be.

    Those were the words of the studio if I recall (that the transfer was approved), and of reviewers.


    And that's why I chose to trust my own eyes and logic.
     
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    You surely wouldn't omit the Criterion laserdisc...? :)
     
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    What a great disc that was! Remember the editing feature where you had the option of using different takes to alter a scene? Keanu was horrible in all the provided takes!
     
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    Would love to still have it now, but it is long gone with the rest of my LD collection and player.
     
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    I took it on good faith. We were assured that Coppola's people had approved it and that was the reason for the change, i mean why change it unless it was correct, it's impossible to fully trust one's eyes because when they say "this is the look we intended" you have to believe them, artistic intent can sometimes be ugly as hell and our eyes tell us it's ugly but if it's what the director intended then who am i to say otherwise, not that the last release of Dracula was ugly, i thought it good, darker than ever and different colours but scanning at 4K can really bring great benefits, this film has always sounded great, should be fab in Atmos.


    I think i would re-buy all my old titles which have 2K scans if they re-scanned at 4K, the extra detail is clear as daylight on any new 4K scanned title that i have seen, it benefits 1080p blu ray and will obviously make such titles instantly ready for UHD disc.
     
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    I would like to hear an explanation as to why the colors are so much different again - albeit more pleasing. We were told that the original Blu-ray was based off the Answer Print, case closed. The original Blu almost looks like it was missing color filters for some scenes.
     
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    That's why I said, I used logic too and common sense..


    What does logic say to us?

    The Director used some great optical effects with a text effect superimposed on images.

    Great so far!

    Is it logical that he would go to all that trouble to hide the effect in pitch black?

    Probably not.

    Then why in this screenshot we don't see anything of the effect?

    Probably because the transfer is wrong!


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    Now, I don't know how this particular shot is handled in the new Bluray, but I have a hunch that you can see now the effect (judging from the other screenshots of the new Bluray)
     
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    Wonderful, you mean! I must dash!

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    And why did they get rid of the fancy in-film subtitle font!
     
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    The Criterion laserdisc does have the cool subtitles. Also, Criterion's opening sequence is very bright and red, almost a red wash. The Sony Blu-Ray has more natural colours and is much darker. Aren't Criterion releases supposed to be definitive (he said mischievously)? Dare I say I wish the Blu-Ray had more stylized colours resembling Criterion's laserdisc? Maybe the colourist for the Blu-Ray heard all the Keanu fans yelling "MORE HARKER!" as a demand for "MORE DARKER!".
     

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