felix_suwarno
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first impression!
i am not an audiophile, i dont have bat ears. wanna proof? i dont have avia or equal product at my disposal. so, please take all this with tons of grains of salt. i dont speak english too well either.
i use denon avr2802, monster cable 12g, rio volt mp3 player, sub is paradigm pdr10.
i havent tried dvd since my playstation2 stopped working 3 days ago. panasonic rp56 should arrive sometime next week.
so far i only used mp3 songs, mostly 320 bit on LAME encoder, and honestly the i have heard the bostons for only 2 hours so far.
my first ht was using paradigm cinema cc70 all around, and based on htf forumers advice, i set the crossover to 120 hz, and maximized the subwoofer cutout frequency. i didnt have anything else to compare the cinemas with ( except my pc speakers, boston ba4800 with double subwoofers ), so it sounded heavenly. people said it was bright, but i dont think so. after hearing vr-m50 and psb image 1b, i still think it is not bright whatsoever. i mean, i have never had my ears bleed after hours of listening to movies or mp3s.
what i didnt realize was that the sub sounded boomy. i mean, i didnt know what boomy really meant. when i got the psb 1b a few days ago, i lowered the sub cutout freq from 5 o'clock to 3 o'clock, and suddenly everything sounded crispy! the bass sounded tighter this way.
now that i have compared all three :
paradigm cinema cc70 rocks. i mean it. ever heard about a reviewer on a certain magazines saying "these babies sounded just as good as another speakers twice its price" ?
well, compared to psb image 1b, cc70 sounds just as good. why? well, the first time i set the image 1b as my surround, i thought they were not producing any sound. i mean, they blended nicely with the 3 front cinemas. i had to "nitpick" both cinemas and images by standing in front of them to really differentiate the difference. nonetheless, the images sound heavier, thicker, or... i dunno. warmer? but it is not noticeable if i didnt try to differentiate them. at this time, the crossover was set on 120 hz.
btw, i have to state that i dont believe with speakers break in period anymore. the images sounded good out of the box, and i have been using it for many hours at this point.
i think i am rather dissapointed with the image 1bs since they didnt show any significant improvement over the much smaller and cheaper cinemas. they may sound better if cranked up, but i live in an apartment. my neighbors who live behind the wall are grandma and grandpa. -13 on the receiver would be the loudest sound.
then i tried the vr-m50s. with vr-mc, off course. the first time i tried it, it was like the heaven's door suddenly opened on the top of my head. what a difference!!! i am not exagerrating this, folks. on my humblest opinion, vr-m50s sounded crystal clear. the highs were smooth!
"yea i can hear the difference", said wifey.
i have been listening to the vr-m50s for two hours : no ear fatigue. -24 on receiver.
my conclusion so far at this point :
-5 : warm
0 : neutral
+5 : bright
cinema cc70 and cc : -3.5
image 1b : -3.3
vr-m50 : 0
i cant believe people said cinemas sounded bright. it is not. but compared to vr-m50s ( 2.5 times more expensive ), it is coloured. but cinemas sound just as good as the image 1bs, which is about 80 bucks more expensive. i recommend it to people on budget. seriously.
i will post my thoughts when i received the rp56. damn, i have black hawk down at home ( rent from netflix ) just waiting on the desk.
i am not an audiophile, i dont have bat ears. wanna proof? i dont have avia or equal product at my disposal. so, please take all this with tons of grains of salt. i dont speak english too well either.
i use denon avr2802, monster cable 12g, rio volt mp3 player, sub is paradigm pdr10.
i havent tried dvd since my playstation2 stopped working 3 days ago. panasonic rp56 should arrive sometime next week.
so far i only used mp3 songs, mostly 320 bit on LAME encoder, and honestly the i have heard the bostons for only 2 hours so far.
my first ht was using paradigm cinema cc70 all around, and based on htf forumers advice, i set the crossover to 120 hz, and maximized the subwoofer cutout frequency. i didnt have anything else to compare the cinemas with ( except my pc speakers, boston ba4800 with double subwoofers ), so it sounded heavenly. people said it was bright, but i dont think so. after hearing vr-m50 and psb image 1b, i still think it is not bright whatsoever. i mean, i have never had my ears bleed after hours of listening to movies or mp3s.
what i didnt realize was that the sub sounded boomy. i mean, i didnt know what boomy really meant. when i got the psb 1b a few days ago, i lowered the sub cutout freq from 5 o'clock to 3 o'clock, and suddenly everything sounded crispy! the bass sounded tighter this way.
now that i have compared all three :
paradigm cinema cc70 rocks. i mean it. ever heard about a reviewer on a certain magazines saying "these babies sounded just as good as another speakers twice its price" ?
well, compared to psb image 1b, cc70 sounds just as good. why? well, the first time i set the image 1b as my surround, i thought they were not producing any sound. i mean, they blended nicely with the 3 front cinemas. i had to "nitpick" both cinemas and images by standing in front of them to really differentiate the difference. nonetheless, the images sound heavier, thicker, or... i dunno. warmer? but it is not noticeable if i didnt try to differentiate them. at this time, the crossover was set on 120 hz.
btw, i have to state that i dont believe with speakers break in period anymore. the images sounded good out of the box, and i have been using it for many hours at this point.
i think i am rather dissapointed with the image 1bs since they didnt show any significant improvement over the much smaller and cheaper cinemas. they may sound better if cranked up, but i live in an apartment. my neighbors who live behind the wall are grandma and grandpa. -13 on the receiver would be the loudest sound.
then i tried the vr-m50s. with vr-mc, off course. the first time i tried it, it was like the heaven's door suddenly opened on the top of my head. what a difference!!! i am not exagerrating this, folks. on my humblest opinion, vr-m50s sounded crystal clear. the highs were smooth!
"yea i can hear the difference", said wifey.
i have been listening to the vr-m50s for two hours : no ear fatigue. -24 on receiver.
my conclusion so far at this point :
-5 : warm
0 : neutral
+5 : bright
cinema cc70 and cc : -3.5
image 1b : -3.3
vr-m50 : 0
i cant believe people said cinemas sounded bright. it is not. but compared to vr-m50s ( 2.5 times more expensive ), it is coloured. but cinemas sound just as good as the image 1bs, which is about 80 bucks more expensive. i recommend it to people on budget. seriously.
i will post my thoughts when i received the rp56. damn, i have black hawk down at home ( rent from netflix ) just waiting on the desk.