BOSE for my HT (1 Viewer)

[Jason Hammerly]

Try here for Energy ... they are a shop in Canada. Remember that those prices are Canadian, so you can get the original take5's and 8" sub for maybe $450 US. I here they are great to work with as well. Just an idea.

 

[Dale B]

I own the am-6 system and am very happy with it.I have a powered sub to go along with it. For 600 dollars I think it is a bargain for such large sound out of such a small speaker. I know I will be cut to shreds but tell me where you can get such a large sound from a 2.5 inch driver?

 

[Aurel Savin]

Jason:
Check outhttp://www.soundpros.com
The Hole

 

[Thomas_Berg]

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[Henry Carmona]

quote: I know I will be cut to shreds but tell me where you can get such a large sound from a 2.5 inch driver?[/quote]
Dale, no one is going to tear you to shreds for being misinformed, it happens to all of us.
The thing is, that for the same price you can get a more complete sound.
I dont mind saying that some Bose speakers sound alright, but plastic enclosures and paper 2.5" drivers are no where near the price most pay for them.
There is also the issue of not getting the full frequency range from many if not all Bose cube packages. I dont know what subwoofer you have, but there is a big gap in there where the "cube arrays" dont extend far enough down for the bass enclosure (or whatever they call it) to take up the rest.
In otherwords, you are probably missing out on some very important frequencies somewhere around 200hz.
Some one help me out here
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[Steve_D]

Henry,
Hey something is wrong with my system also! I can't get it to produce a thing at 200Khz! Now, 200 Hz, that's another thing entirely!

Anyway, this is what you were referring too:
Bose AM-15 SATELLITES BASS MODULE
Frequency Response:
Sats- 280 Hz to 13.3 kHz ±10.5 dB
Bass module- 46 Hz to 202 Hz ±2.3 dB
Sensitivity (SPL at 1 meter)* 85.1 dB N/A
Impedance (minimum/nominal) 5.3/8 ohms N/A
Bass Limits (-3/-6 dB) 280/220 Hz
Above I posted the S&V test results from your AM15 cubes. Note a few things.
1) Where is the 200 through 280 HZ range? Neither the satellites nor the bass module cover it!
2) +-10.5 DB for the satellites! only up to 13.3 KHZ?
3) Sensitivity is way low for their market segment.
Here's another review, I couldn't say it better myself!http://www.geocities.com/trustnoho/bose.htm
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[Edited last by Steve_D on July 25, 2001 at 10:16 PM]

 

[Henry Carmona]

HAHAHA
Khz my bad... uh no wait, i was referring to those of us that can comunicate with bats, yeah.
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[TomH]

Listen to the Bose system and then listen to small speakers from some of the names mentioned above. It should be immediately obvious that there is "something missing" from the Bose sound. You can do better at half the price.

 

[Dean DeMass]

Def Tech Pro Cinema
Klipsch Quintets
Energy Take 5
These three are head and shoulders above anything BOSE can do.
-Dean-
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[John_Bonner]

Jason,
I have the Energy Take 5 system with the Energy e:XLS10 subwoofer in a room about the same size as yours. My neighbor has the Bose Acoustimass system and he will admit that the Energy's sound much better (and the Bose cost more than double). We both have the same receiver (Denon AVR-2800) so that's not the difference.
One of the biggest drawbacks to the Bose system is the "bass module" (you can't call it a subwoofer). We sampled the same scene from the U-571 DVD (the Depth Charge scene) and there was absolutely no comparison. The Energy sub rocked the house!
As far as vendors, I used these guys Link Removed as have many other people in the forum and was very pleased with the prices and customer service. Since the Energy Take 5.1 are being replaced with the Take 5.2 you can probably find some good deals on the 5.1 system (try Ebay). Good Luck!
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[Glen_L]

Here is a deal you can't beat.
Until the end of the month, hifi.com is offering $150 off any speaker system valued $359 or more. Check out the Cambridge SoundWorks MovieWorks 408 system from this page . These are very small cubes, which you seem to be looking for, and have reviewed very well from audioreview.com (for what that's worth) at this page .
So, you'll get a full 5.1 speaker system that they normally charge $450 for $300. To top that off, they're offering free shipping, and have a VERY generous 45 day money back guarantee. If you don't want them for any reason, they'll refund you in full and pay shipping both ways.
It seems like a no-lose situation to me.

 

[BryanZ]

By now everyone else has chimed in about why you shouldn't get the Bose. My $0.02 reason: you'll realize a couple of months after you bought them why you shouldn't have bought them.
Anyways here are some alternatives:
marble nOrh 4.0s - granted they are expensive but odds are the wife will want to show them off. They exude class.
Def Tech Pro Cinema - good speakers. You likely won't be disappointed.
Gallo Acoustics Micro - may work for the wife. Much better sound than Bose. However, they will still be outperfomed by good bookshelf speakers.

 

[KeithH]

John, I heard that Audioshop in Canada stopped selling Energy products to the US some months back. The word is that Energy was not pleased with Audioshop discounting their products so heavily to the US market, and Audioshop could have lost its authorized dealer status as a result. Maybe others can are more familiar with this situation. Anyway, I ordered a pair of Energy e:XL 16 bookshelf speakers from Audioshop last November for a second system for only $248 USD delivered. That's a truly outstanding price. Now, the first pair had a defective speaker, but Audioshop was very responsive. They paid for return shipping of the first pair and sent me a new pair very quickly. If they can sell to the US, I would deal with them in a heartbeat.
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[John_Bonner]

I heard that Audioshop in Canada stopped selling Energy products to the US some months back. The word is that Energy was not pleased with Audioshop discounting their products so heavily to the US market, and Audioshop could have lost its authorized dealer status as a result

Wow! That sux! I also would've bought from them again with no hesitation.
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JB
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[Phil Iturralde]

If you want a speaker that has flatter response as . . .
1) LOW as 89 Hz -2.7 dB
or
2) HIGH as 18.9 kHz -2.7 dB (overall = ±2.7 dB)
(Sound & Vision: The left/right front speakers were averaged over a ±30° window, with double weight given to the most common listening angle, 30° — Tom Nousaine)
Than the:
Paradigm Cinema CINEMA V.1front left/right.... 125 Hz to 20 kHz ±5.2 dB

Klipsch Quintet front left/right.... 188 Hz to 20 kHz ±3.4 dB

Energy Take 5.2 Take 2.2 front left/right.... 110 Hz to 16.3 kHz ±4.5 dB

and can play @ Cinema REF Level without sounding strained or muddy, then you want to audition the
http://www.geocities.com/p_iturra/Misc_HT_Speakers.html
w/any** power-sub!
** The JBL has lower bass extension than any of the three above @ -2.7dB (±30°) and that means that a seamless blend between the sub and satellites - (no audible hole between the lower bass frequency and upper mid-bass frequency).
A great bargain @ Link Removed

 

[Ryan_B]

I'm not going to complain about BOSE (everyone else has done that for me.). But, I would suggest that you audition the M&K M-5 series speakers. I think they run about $150 a piece and they are about the size of a beanie baby (that is what they had next to one in the recent HT Mag.). I've had the chance to listen to these little wonders and I would suggest them to anyone who needs small speakers with a punch. Especially to gain WAF.
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[Kieran Coghlan]

Phil Iturralde:
Why do you have such a problem with the Take5 system? You've developed an entire web page devoted to proving how much worse the Take5 system is than the JBL's... why not just recommend the JBL's? Geeeze... Did a Take5 satellite kill your sister or something?
Not since the Bose AM/Lifestyle speakers have I seen some one so hell bent on putting down a speaker system. On your web site, you highlight all these negative comments taken from reviews of the Energy system.... every one of those comments apply to ALL small speakers in general, including the JBL's.
BTW, I've heard those JBL's and I don't care for them at all... most people consider the Energy's to be very "bright" i.e. emphasizing the higher octave, but those JBL's are more than bright, I'd call them HARSH. This is JMO, though... YMMV. I'm not going to say the suck or anything though... some people may like them (you obviously do).
BTW (again) ... you can get the entire Take5 system with sub for $550 shipped fromwww.soundpros.com and it's also available onhttp://www.wholesaleconnection.com/ for about the same price ($299 for the speakers, $199 for the sub, plus shipping). So, the JBL's don't really beat the Takes for price (close to the same MSRP, close to the same internet price). As for sound quality, that's up to the listener, and no amount of S&V graphs can prove otherwise.
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-Kieran
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