Blackhawk sound better than Lord of Rings

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  1. JayB

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    My personal opinion which you all can disagree with:
    The sound in Blackhawk Down is better than the sound in Lord of the Rings.
    Blackhawk sound is layered, dynamic, subtle, jarring.
    Rings sound is compressed, bass heavy, congested.
    I really hope the Rings director cut has a more normally balanced sound (ya know, everyone has to lower their normal listening level for Rings because it's so compressed/hot)
    Go here http://www.digido.com/
    to read about Compression (applies to both film and straight audio)
    I guess Mia Casa uses heavy compression to yield their theater-like sound.
     
  2. Ron-P

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    I think they are both equally impressive. Some of the best dd tracks to date.
     
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    Different movies have different sound designs.
     
  4. Lou Sytsma

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    Mi Casa did not compress to create the soundfield - they re-equalized it. Any compression that was done was to fit the movie onto 1 disc.

    If one plays FOTR at a lower volume it sounds stupendous - very layered and spacious. I don't hear any compression at all.
     
  5. Dave H

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    Both have excellent sound tracks. I would say they are about equal - but different types of sound. I liked the dynamics of Lord of the Rings. I was more impressed by this - but they are different types of sound and movies.
     
  6. John_W_Jr

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    I would agree with Dave H: different types of sound. LOTR has a wide swing of dynamics--I love it!
     
  7. JeremySt

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    I agree most of the above opinions. Both offer great sound. They both DD tracks that makes most DTS tracks run away in shame.
    Although, Im not sure why BHD and LOTR need to be compared. Cant they both be great on their own terms? [​IMG]
     
  8. Paul-Gunther

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    Well, you know, Black Hawk Down did win the Oscar for Best Sound.
     
  9. Wes C

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    I think both are about equally good. But both fall short to TPM in my opinion.
     
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    I recently calibrated my system with Video Digital Essentials (pink noise at 75dB i believe) and of all the soundtracks I've listened too LOTR sounds the very best, never do I have to adjust the sound, it's never too loud or too quiet, the soundfield is utterly enveloping and very dynamic. My mother who is very sensitive on the subject of sound (always saying it's much to loud), never once complained during LOTR and even commented on it afterwards that it wasn't loud except when it's supposed to be. Gladiator I turn down when I listen to it, and phantom Menace goes up as high as my reciever will let(about ten more decibels), and neither are as engaging as LOTR (of course part of that problem could be I've only sampled sound heavy sequences in those films recently, and watched LOTR all the way through several times recently) My personal opinion is that it's one of the most engaging mixes I"ve heard on dvd.
     
  11. Daniel J

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    Of course, it could also have something to do with grasping at straws...
     
  12. Leon Liew

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    Well jus to add 2 cts worth. The sound in Black Hawk Down
    is more on a modern war genre. Machine gun fire,bullets
    whizzing,RPGs firing,helicopters' rotor blade swirling and
    explosions etc etc while Lord of the Rings is more on ancient genre where swords clang and swosh,spears and arrows
    whizzed by,shreiks and howling sounds of the Orcs, and the
    Balrog scene is one helluva a bass heavy.

    Both have their own surrounds' spatiality and effects and
    both are heavy bass too.To make a comparison between the
    two is quite difficult in a sense that each has it's own merits and as JeremySt mentioned why can't they both be great on their own terms ?
     
  13. Yumbo

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    I think BHDown sounds like shit on DVD, seriously.

    LOTR sounds stupendous.

    same setup.

    I saw BHD in theatres and the DVD is NOWHERE close to that experience.
     

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