Black bars with Star Wars on a 16x9 TV...

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  1. Bruce_S

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    I just got done watching the new Star Wars:TPM DVD on a 16X9 HDTV ready TV. The pod race scene was incredible. I noticed the black bars still exists during the playback. Am I doing something wrong? I doubled checked the setup for the tv and dvd and they were both set on the 16x9 format.
    please help,
    bruce
     
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    The Star Wars movies are all 2.35x1 widescreen.
    2.35x1 widescreen movies will appear with black bars on your 16x9 (1.77x1) television set.
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    A 16x9 TV has a 1.78:1 aspect ratio. Star Wars has a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. Anamorphic or not, you will still see black bars on your TV.
    A non-anamorphic disk will have much less vertical resolution than a disk that is anamorphic. Try some of your non 16x9 anamorphic DVD's for comparison.
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    Yes, as Steve said, it's normal for you to still have black area, albeit a little thinner.
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    Your HDTV screen's aspect ratio is 1.78:1, Episode One is 2.35:1
    Episode One was filmed at a WIDER screen aspect ratio than your HDTV.
    You would lose some important information on the screen if it wasn't letterboxed.
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    Dont worry, all is right with the world!
    You will still get the black bars on a widescreen tv on many movies that are shot "Anamorphically" and anything wider than 1.85 will have black bars at the top and bottom.
     
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    Just to verbalize the undercurrent, 16x9 aspect ratio for televisions is really a compromise; bigger than 1.66:1, smaller than 2.35:1.
     
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    Four responses in a three minute window. Go Go OAR Avengers!
     
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    What are with those black bars anyway? They make the image on my tv look SO SMALL.
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    And where the hell is the Full Screen version of Episode 1 on DVD anyway? [​IMG]
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    Thanks for your help.. I'll pass the news around to better educate the 16x9 owner...
    bruce
     
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    Now, now Henrik! Take it easy on the new guy, okay? [​IMG]
     
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    Here's a question for you lucky 16x9 havin' folks:
    On my 4x3 setup- the subtitles usually appear in the black letterbox created by the player.
    What happens when you have a 16x9 set and can blow up the picture to fill the entire screen. Do you lose the subs, or does the player compensate?
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    Another thing to remember is that the purpose of a widescreen tv is for a larger widescreen picture and with greater resolution. It is not to get rid of the black bars.
    As far as subtitles go, if you use the theaterwide2 setup to watch a non-anamorphic dvd, many times the subtitles will not be seen and you'll either have to live with it or scroll the screen up a bit until they come into view.
    For anamorphic dvds this does not apply as the subtitles are always in the screen viewing area.
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    Thanks you guys...makes perfect sense.
    ck
     
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    On the Star Wars E1 disc, the subs are in the black bar area if your DVD player is set to 4:3 Letterbox and in the picture area if your DVD player is set to 16:9 Widescreen. Not sure how many other discs do this.
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