Bitmaps? Why?

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  1. John Watson

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    Bitmaps. What gives? I was just visiting a site where I used to find nice Sarah Michelle Gellar wallpaper type images, and find they are all Bitmaps now, instead of jpegs.

    They can be downloaded just as easily, but bitmaps tend to be much bigger files, and only display in Paint on my Windows 98 operating system. Is there a way to convert them to jpgs?

    Is the site concerned trying to discourage downloading?

    Seems bizarre considering it's a fan site.
     
  2. Joel Mack

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    Maybe your temporary files directory is full? Does this happen with every image file you try to right-click and save?

    If so, go to Tools, Internet Options, and Delete Files.
     
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    Yeah, i;ve had that happen to me before too, where when you save the images they;re only available as BMP or GIF... I think you gotta empty your internet cache or something... I forgot what I did, but its working again...

    That really pissed me off though when it was happening
     
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    here is the solution, i hated this more than anything, very frustrating. anyway, this should work.

    CJ
     
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    The reason why they do that is jpeg tends to make images look muddy sometimes. Perhaps the person running the site was concerned with quality.
     
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    They should use PNG, it is compressed but it's lossless so it's more like ZIP than JPEG.
     
  9. Max Leung

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    They are probably jpegs...as Nick and Christ point out, it is likely a problem with the browser converting all images to .bmp or .gif without the user's knowledge, and nothing to do with the website.
     
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    For any graphic viewing purposes, I reccomend

    Irfanview

    A great, very small program.
     
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    i second the irfanview recommendation
     
  13. John Watson

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    Thanks for all the responses, everyone. I clear my TIF cache regularly, so that's not the problem.

    I think I followed Rob's suggestion, and I then get a jpg version of the bitmap file, but it's just as large in kb's as the one in Bitmap format, and doesn't open anyway.

    I tried the technique in Christs' link, and have one unknown file in the Objets.

    Anyway, the problem only occurs on very few sites, the vast majority show as jpgs, so it probably is something associated with the one site, and if bitmaps take a lot more expensive bandwidth, its puzzling.

    Some sites disable image downloading, so perhaps using bitmaps is another way to accomplish that.

    Anyway, thanks for all the info/tips. [​IMG]
     
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    I just quickly re-read the thread and I don't think anyone has mentioned the browser issue. I use Netcape and Explorer because I find that a lot of the scripting that they use in Explorer, to discourage image downloading (especially the not being able to right click), isn't a problem in Netscape.

    If I am to download any image, I use Netscape. I too ran into situations where I would try to save a JPG to my computer and Explorer would only save it as a bitmap. In fact, it wouldn't even hold onto the name, it would save it as "untitled.bmp".
     
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    BMP files are what Windows uses "natively" for desktop backgrounds. Back in the Win 95 days, before they started integrating IE, you could use nothing but BMP.

    BMP's are the best choice if you want pixel-perfect desktop background images at full color. GIF can't do full color, and JPG is lossy.

    PNG is, of course, even better but I doubt if you can take a PNG and use that directly as a desktop background.

    Granted, with software like ACDSee you can have it convert automatically to a desktop background; they way that is done is that it automatically resizes and saves the image - as a BMP file.
     
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