BFI Sight & Sound 2012 List (Greatest Movies) (1 Viewer)

[Adam_S]

Tomorrow, August 1st, Sight and Sound will announce the 2012 incarnation of their once a decade poll/list of the greatest films ever made. They will be announcing the Critics top ten list, and the directors top ten lists.

They have massively expanded the roster of both critics & directors polled this year: 2045 films were mentioned by the more than 846 critics polled. They will be announcing a full 100 film list (ala AFI's 100 film lists) from the critics poll in their magazine later this week.

Later this month, they will post the ballots of all the critics and all the directors polled.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/polls-surveys/greatest-films-all-time-2012

On a previous incarnation of this forum we had a LONG running thread for a "Sight and Sound Challenge". As far as I know, Home Theater Forum was the only place that ever combined all the ballots from the critics and the directors into one meta list. From this meta list, which differed from the Sight & Sound official two top tens (of critics and directors, respectively), an extremely lenghthly list of all the films receiving at least two votes was compiled and some of the more mad regulars of the Movies forum attempted to see all/most of the films from the Sight & Sound 2002 meta list. I'll see if I can find the thread an bump it for posterity.

 

[Adam_S]

The lists are now available:

Directors:

1. Tokyo Story
2 (tie). 2001: A Space Odyssey
2 (tie). Citizen Kane
4. 8 1/2
5. Taxi Driver
6. Apocalypse Now
7 (tie). The Godfather
7 (tie). Vertigo
9. Mirror
10. Bicycle Thieves

I will link to the directors list when it is posted on the BFI website.

Critics:

1 Vertigo
2 Citizen Kane
3 Tokyo Story
4 Rules of the Game
5 Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
6 2001: A Space Odyssey
7 Searchers, The
8 Man With a Movie Camera
9 Passion of Joan of Arc, The
10 8 ½
11 Battleship Potemkin
12 Atalante, L'
13 Breathless
14 Apocalypse Now
15 Late Spring
16 Au Hasard Balthazar
17 Persona
17 Seven Samurai
19 Mirror
20 Singin' in the Rain
21 Avventura, L'
21 Contempt
21 Godfather, The
24 In the Mood for Love
24 Ordet
26 Andrei Rublev
26 Rashomon
28 Mulholland Dr.
29 Shoah
29 Stalker

31 Godfather Part II, The
31 Taxi Driver

33 Bicycle Thieves

34 General, The

35 Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce 1080 Buxelles
35 Metropolis
35 Psycho
35 Sátántangó

39 400 Blows, The
39 Dolce Vita, La

41 Journey to Italy

42 Close-Up
42 Gertrud
42 Pather Panchali
42 Pierrot le fou
42 Play Time
42 Some Like it Hot

48 Battle of Algiers, The
48 Histoire(s) du cinéma

50 City Lights
50 Jetée, La
50 Ugetsu monogatari

53 North by Northwest
53 Raging Bull
53 Rear Window

56 M

57 Leopard, The
57 Touch of Evil

59 Barry Lyndon
59 Mother and the Whore, The
59 Sansho the Bailiff
59 Sherlock Jr.

63 Modern Times
63 Night of the Hunter, The
63 Pickpocket
63 Rio Bravo
63 Sunset Blvd.
63 Wild Strawberries

69 Blade Runner
69 Blue Velvet
69 Man Escaped, A
69 Sans Soleil

73 Children of Paradise
73 Eclisse, L'
73 Grand Illusion
73 Nashville
73 Third Man, The

78 Beau Travail
78 Chinatown
78 Once Upon a Time in the West

81 Lawrence of Arabia
81 Magnificent Ambersons
81 Spirit of the Beehive

84 Brighter Summer Day,
84 Casablanca
84 Color of Pomegranates
84 Fanny and Alexander
84 Greed
84 Wild Bunch, The

90 Aguirre, Wrath of God
90 Matter of Life and Death, A
90 Partie de campgne

93 Earrings of Madame de
93 Fear Eats the Soul
93 Imitation of Life
93 Intolerance
93 Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, The
93 Seventh Seal, The
93 Touki-Bouki
93 Un chien andalou
93 Yi Yi

102 Conformist, The
102 Ivan The Terrible
102 Last Year at Marienbad
102 Meshes of the Afternoon
102 Travelling Players, The
102 Tree of Life, The
102 Two or Three Things I Know About Her…
102 Wavelength

110 Âge d'Or, L'
110 Bringing Up Baby
110 Lady Eve, The
110 olvidados, Los
110 Passenger, The
110 Performance
110 Viridiana

117 Amarcord
117 Canterbury Tale, A
117 City of Sadness, A
117 Days of Heaven
117 Dr. Strangelove, Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
117 Man Who Shot Liberty Valence
117 Mouchette
117 Nosferatu
117 Red Shoes, The
117 Trouble in Paradise

127 Annie Hall
127 Apartment, The
127 argent, L'
127 Blue
127 Celine and Julie Go Boating
127 Do the Right Thing
127 Don't Look Now
127 Hiroshima Mon Amour
127 Ikiru
127 Jules and Jim
127 Last Laugh, The
127 Meet Me in St. Louis
127 Out 1
127 Pulp Fiction
127 River, The
127 Spring in a Small Town
127 Tropical Malady

144 Blow Up
144 Chungking Express
144 Diary of a Country Priest
144 Great Dictator, The
144 Memories of Underdevelopment
144 My Life to Live
144 Napoleon
144 To Be or Not to Be
144 Wizard of Oz, The
144 Woman Under the Influence, A

154 Black Narcissus
154 Brief Encounter
154 Chimes at Midnight
154 Come and See
154 Cries and Whispers
154 Distant Voices, Still Lives
154 Gold Rush, The
154 Hidden
154 In a Lonely Place
154 Letter From an Unknown Woman
154 Marketa Lazarová
154 My Neighbor Totoro
154 Once Upon a Time in America
154 Only Angels Have Wings
154 Shining, The
154 Solaris
154 Vampyr

171 Earth
171 Goodfellas
171 His Girl Friday
171 Kind Hearts and Coronets
171 King Kong
171 Notorious
171 Star Wars
171 Sweet Smell of Success
171 Tabu
171 Trip to the Moon, A
171 Umbrellas of Cherbourg, The
171 Werckmeister Harmonies, The

183 Breaking the Waves
183 Conversation, The
183 Day of Wrath
183 Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, The
183 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial
183 Eraserhead
183 Faces
183 Grapes of Wrath
183 I Know Where I'm Going!
183 I Was Born, But…
183 Listen to Britain
183 Music Room, The
183 Out of the Past
183 Paris, Texas
183 Rome Open City
183 Story of the Late Chrysanthemums, The
183 Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The
183 Thin Red Line, The
183 Touch of Zen, A

202 Army of Shadows
202 Badlands
202 Berlin Alexanderplatz
202 Big Sleep, The
202 Chelsea Girls
202 Cleo from 5 to 7
202 Daisies
202 Death of Mr. Lazarescu, The
202 Devil Probably, The
202 Duck Soup
202 Exterminating Angel, The
202 Floating Clouds
202 Germany Year Zero
202 Killer of Sheep
202 Kings of the Road
202 Life of Oharu, The
202 Love Streams
202 Manhattan
202 Paisà
202 Red Desert
202 Russian Ark
202 Salò, or The 120 Days of Sodom
202 Shop Around the Corner, The
202 Spirited Away
202 strada, La
202 Tale of Tales, A
202 There Will Be Blood
202 Turin Horse
202 Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives
202 Videodrome
202 Wall*E
202 Wanda
202 West of the Tracks

235 A nos Amours
235 All About Eve
235 All About My Mother
235 All That Heaven Allows
235 Autumn Afternoon, An
235 Band Wagon, The
235 Belle de Jour
235 Big Lebowski
235 Blissfully Yours
235 By the Bluest of Seas
235 Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
235 Clockwork Orange, A
235 Cloud-Capped Star, The
235 Colossal Youth
235 Death in Venice
235 Double Life of Veronique, The
235 F for Fake
235 Flowers of Shanghai
235 Gone with the Wind
235 Gospel According to St. Matthew, The
235 House is Black, The
235 How Green Was My Valley
235 Husbands
235 Kes
235 Melancholia
235 Moment of Innocence, A
235 My Darling Clementine
235 Pandora's Box
235 Piano, The
235 Puppetmaster
235 Red
235 Red River
235 Rocco and his Brothers
235 Samouraï, Le
235 Shadows
235 Sicilia!
235 Stromboli
235 Sullivan's Travels
235 Testament of Dr. Mabuse, The
235 Thin Blue Line, The
235 Throne of Blood
235 Two-Lane Blacktop
235 Umberto D
235 Where is My Friend's House
235 White Ribbon, The
235 Wind Will Carry Us, The
235 World of Apu, The
235 Young Girls of Rochefort, The

 

[Brian W.]

As far as I know, Home Theater Forum was the only place that ever combined all the ballots from the critics and the directors into one meta list.  From this meta list, which differed from the Sight & Sound official two top tens (of critics and directors, respectively), an extremely lenghthly list of all the films receiving at least two votes was compiled and some of the more mad regulars of the Movies forum attempted to see all/most of the films from the Sight & Sound 2002 meta list.  I'll see if I can find the thread an bump it for posterity.

Yep, that was me who created that combined list. Took a long time. Not sure I'd want to put in the time again, but I'll do it if nobody else wants to.

 

[Adam_S]

Originally Posted by Brian W. /t/322711/bfi-sight-sound-2012-list-greatest-movies#post_3956872
Yep, that was me who created that combined list. Took a long time. Not sure I'd want to put in the time again, but I'll do it if nobody else wants to.

I was thinking of creating a combined list from the soon to be published full top 100 of each of the directors and critics. On the linked BFI page, it tells us how many votes all the films on the critics top 50 received, so if they do the same for when they post a more extensive directors list, it should be easy to combine the two, then it's just a matter of tracking down many votes the films that don't overlap received from the other group.

It's incredible to see silent film so ascendant on the Critics list.

 

[Brian W.]

 On the linked BFI page, it tells us how many votes all the films on the critics top 50 received, so if they do the same for when they post a more extensive directors list, it should be easy to combine the two, then it's just a matter of tracking down many votes the films that don't overlap received from the other group.

That would be MUCH easier than what I had to do in 2002, which was manually type out each critic's and director's top ten list separately in Word, then alphabetize them so that identical titles would be grouped together, and count them. Still can't believe it's been ten years. The new list is very exciting.

 

[Evan Case]

Only two from this Top 50 that I need to see
Sátántangó - At 450 minutes, I hope it's more Berlin Alexanderplatz and less Jeanne Dielman
Histoire(s) du cinéma - Appears to be a series of films by Godard, not currently available on Netflix. Stange that a set of different films would make it with the new rules about not combining series (Godfather, Three Colors, etc). I wonder how that rule affected Dekalog, if at all.
.....
Forgot to add Journey to Italy. I have it listed as Voyage to Italy on the 2002 list.
Also, I'd like to give a double thumbs up for the continued ascent of Sunrise in both the S&S and AFI lists of recent years.

 

[Michael Elliott]

I was planning to go through the entire list once this new one came out. I think only Martin actually went through all of them but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
With that said, I've only watched the first part of HISTORIE(S) DU CINEMA but if someone says this is one of the 50 greatest films ever made, my desire to go through that list goes down some.

 

[Adam_S]

Originally Posted by Evan Case /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Only two from this Top 50 that I need to see
Sátántangó - At 450 minutes, I hope it's more Berlin Alexanderplatz and less Jeanne Dielman
Histoire(s) du cinéma - Appears to be a series of films by Godard, not currently available on Netflix. Stange that a set of different films would make it with the new rules about not combining series (Godfather, Three Colors, etc). I wonder how that rule affected Dekalog, if at all.
.....
Forgot to add Journey to Italy. I have it listed as Voyage to Italy on the 2002 list.
Also, I'd like to give a double thumbs up for the continued ascent of Sunrise in both the S&S and AFI lists of recent years.

I have to see Satantango and Histoire(s) du cinema as well as Jeanne Dielman. Goddamn long films, I don't really want to see any of them.



It looks like the top 100 is entirely manageable, someone has posted the list at another forum, but I am not going to post the full list here out of respect for Sight and Sound and the BFI. It's their material, they are choosing to make the top 100 available online on the 15th, and not until then because they want people to pay for the new issue, either at the newstands, or through their new app. I'd like to respectively ask that people in this thread also don't infringe on the BFI's purview and link to that list until they post it themselves online.



http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/polls-surveys/greatest-films-all-time-2012

 

[Martin Teller]

I've seen all of the top 50. SATANTANGO is a top 100 film for me. JEANNE DIELMAN is tough but very interesting. HISTOIRE(S) DU CINEMA was an utter chore, but I'm not a Godard guy.

 

[Adam_S]

I have a feeling I'll love Satantango, be indifferent to Jeanne Dielman (but exasperated at the length), and find myself aggravated by histoire du cinema but interact/engage with it the most.

I am just not looking forward to devoting a month to watching three films.

I've added the link to the directors page at the BFI that gives their vote totals, iirc, more directors--358--voted for the 2012 poll than critics voted for the 2002 poll.

 

[Adam_S]

HTF combination of the Sight and Sound Directors and Critics list:
(updated with the combination for everything receiving 7 votes or more)














Rank

TITLE

DIRECTOR

YEAR

# of Votes

Country



1

Vertigo

Hitchcock, Alfred

1958

222

USA



2

Citizen Kane

Welles, Orson

1941

199

USA



3

Tokyo Story

Ozu, Yasujiro

1953

155

Japan



4

2001: A Space Odyssey

Kubrick, Stanley

1968

132

USA



5

8 ½

Fellini, Federico

1963

104

Italy



6

Rules of the Game

Renoir, Jean

1939

100

France



7

Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans

Murnau, F.W.

1927

93

USA



8

Apocalypse Now

Coppola, Francis Ford

1979

86

USA



9

Searchers, The

Ford, John

1956

78

USA



10

Singin' in the Rain

Donen, Stanley

1951

76

USA



11

Godfather, The

Coppola, Francis Ford

1972

74

USA



12

Taxi Driver

Scorsese, Martin

1976

72

USA



13

Man With a Movie Camera

Vertov, Dziga

1929

68

USSR



14

Bicycle Thieves

De Sica, Vittorio

1948

66

Italy



15

Passion of Joan of Arc, The

Dreyer, Carl Theodor

1927

65

France



16

Battleship Potemkin

Eisenstein, Sergei

1925

63

USSR



17

Atalante, L'

Vigo, Jean

1934

58

France



18

Breathless

Godard, Jean Luc

1960

57

France



19

Late Spring

Ozu, Yasujiro

1949

50

Japan



20

Au Hasard Balthazar

Bresson, Robert

1966

49

France



21

Persona

Bergman, Ingmar

1966

48

Sweden



21

Seven Samurai

Kuosawa, Akira

1954

48

Japan



23

Mirror

Tarkovsky, Andrei

1974

47

USSR



24

Avventura, L'

Antonioni, Michelangelo

1960

43

Italy



24

Contempt

Godard, Jean Luc

1963

43

France



26

In the Mood for Love

Wong, Kar Wai

2000

42

Hong Kong



26

Ordet

Dreyer, Carl Theodor

1955

42

Denmark



28

Andrei Rublev

Tarkovsky, Andrei

1966

41

USSR



28

Rashomon

Kurosawa, Akira

1950

41

Japan



30

Mulholland Dr.

Lynch, David

2001

40

USA



31

Shoah

Lanzmann, Claude

1985

39

France



31

Stalker

Tarkovsky, Andrei

1979

39

USSR



33

Godfather Part II, The

Coppola, Francis Ford

1974

38

USA



34

General, The

Keaton, Buster & Bruckman, Clyde

1926

35

USA



35

Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce 1080 Buxelles

Akerman, Chantal

1975

34

Belgium



35

Metropolis

Lang, Fritz

1927

34

Germany



35

Psycho

Hitchcock, Alfred

1960

34

USA



35

Sátántangó

Tarr, Bela

1994

34

Hungary



39

400 Blows, The

Truffaut, Francois

1959

33

France



39

Dolce Vita, La

Fellini, Federico

1960

33

Italy



41

Journey to Italy

Rossellini, Roberto

1954

32

Italy



42

Close-Up

Kiarostami, Abbas

1990

31

Iran



42

Gertrud

Dreyer, Carl Theodor

1964

31

Denmark



42

Pather Panchali

Ray, Satyajit

1955

31

India



42

Pierrot le fou

Godard, Jean Luc

1965

31

France



42

Play Time

Tati, Jacques

1967

31

France



42

Some Like it Hot

Wilder, Billy

1959

31

USA



48

Battle of Algiers, The

Potecorvo, Gillo

1966

30

Italy



48

Histoire(s) du cinéma

Godard, Jean Luc

1998

30

France



50

City Lights

Chaplin, Charles

1931

29

USA



50

Jetée, La

Marker, Christopher

1962

29

France



50

Ugetsu monogatari

Mizoguchi, Kenji

1953

29

Japan

















Rank

TITLE

DIRECTOR

YEAR

# total



1

Vertigo

Hitchcock, Alfred

1958

222



2

Citizen Kane

Welles, Orson

1941

199



3

Tokyo Story

Ozu, Yasujiro

1953

155



4

2001: A Space Odyssey

Kubrick, Stanley

1968

132



5

Rules of the Game

Renoir, Jean

1939

117



6

Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans

Murnau, F.W.

1927

110



7

8 ½

Fellini, Federico

1963

104



8

Searchers, The

Ford, John

1956

89



9

Apocalypse Now

Coppola, Francis Ford

1979

86



10

Breathless

Godard, Jean Luc

1960

84



11

Man With a Movie Camera

Vertov, Dziga

1929

79



12

Passion of Joan of Arc, The

Dreyer, Carl Theodor

1927

78



13

Mirror

Tarkovsky, Andrei

1974

77



14

Atalante, L'

Vigo, Jean

1934

75



15

Godfather, The

Coppola, Francis Ford

1972

74



16

Persona

Bergman, Ingmar

1966

73



17

Taxi Driver

Scorsese, Martin

1976

72



18

Battleship Potemkin

Eisenstein, Sergei

1925

71



19

Seven Samurai

Kuosawa, Akira

1954

70



20

Au Hasard Balthazar

Bresson, Robert

1966

67



21

Andrei Rublev

Tarkovsky, Andrei

1966

66



21

Bicycle Thieves

De Sica, Vittorio

1948

66



23

Rashomon

Kurosawa, Akira

1950

62



24

Ordet

Dreyer, Carl Theodor

1955

61



25

400 Blows, The

Truffaut, Francois

1959

58



26

Avventura, L'

Antonioni, Michelangelo

1960

57



27

Contempt

Godard, Jean Luc

1963

55



27

Singin' in the Rain

Donen, Stanley

1951

55



29

Late Spring

Ozu, Yasujiro

1949

54



29

Raging Bull

Scorsese, Martin

1980

54



31

Stalker

Tarkovsky, Andrei

1979

53



32

Godfather Part II, The

Coppola, Francis Ford

1974

52



33

In the Mood for Love

Wong, Kar Wai

2000

51



34

Shoah

Lanzmann, Claude

1985

50



35

Mulholland Dr.

Lynch, David

2001

48



36

Dolce Vita, La

Fellini, Federico

1960

46



37

Battle of Algiers, The

Potecorvo, Gillo

1966

45



37

Psycho

Hitchcock, Alfred

1960

45



39

Barry Lyndon

Kubrick, Stanley

1975

44



39

Close-Up

Kiarostami, Abbas

1989

44



39

Play Time

Tati, Jacques

1967

44



39

Some Like it Hot

Wilder, Billy

1959

44



43

City Lights

Chaplin, Charles

1931

43



43

Fanny and Alexander

Bergman, Ingmar

1982

43



43

General, The

Keaton, Buster & Bruckman, C.

1926

43



46

Pather Panchali

Ray, Satyajit

1955

42



47

Gertrud

Dreyer, Carl Theodor

1964

41



47

Journey to Italy

Rossellini, Roberto

1954

41



47

Modern Times

Chaplin, Charles

1936

41



47

Touch of Evil

Welles, Orson

1958

41



51

Jeanne Dielman, 23 quai du Commerce 1080 Buxelles

Akerman, Chantal

1975

40



51

Sátántangó

Tarr, Bela

1994

40



53

Metropolis

Lang, Fritz

1927

39



53

Night of the Hunter, The

Laughton, Charles

1955

39



53

Rear Window

Hitchcock, Alfred

1954

39



56

Pierrot le fou

Godard, Jean Luc

1965

38



56

Ugetsu monogatari

Mizoguchi, Kenji

1953

38



58

Man Escaped, A

Bresson, Robert

1956

36



59

M

Lang, Fritz

1931

35



59

Pickpocket

Bresson, Robert

1959

35



61

North by Northwest

Hitchcock, Alfred

1959

34



62

Blue Velvet

Lynch, David

1986

33



62

Eclisse, L'

Antonioni, Michelangelo

1962

33



62

Jetée, La

Marker, Christopher

1962

33



62

Once Upon a Time in the West

Leone, Sergio

1968

33



62

Sunset Blvd.

Wilder, Billy

1950

33



67

Blade Runner

Scott, Ridley

1982

32



67

Grand Illusion

Renoir, Jean

1937

32



67

Mother and the Whore, The

Eustache, Jean

1973

32



70

Lawrence of Arabia

Lean, David

1962

31



70

Leopard, The

Visconti, Luchio

1963

31



72

Histoire(s) du cinéma

Godard, Jean Luc

1998

30



72

Sans Soleil

Marker, Christopher

1982

30



74

Rio Bravo

Hawks, Howard

1959

29



75

Aguirre, The Wrath of God

Herzog, Werner

1972

28



75

Amarcord

Fellini, Federico

1973

28



75

Beau travail

Denis, Claire

1998

28



75

Chinatown

Polanski, Roman

1974

28



75

Sansho the Bailiff

Mizoguchi, Kenji

1954

28



75

Third Man, The

Reed, Carol

1949

28



75

Viridiana

Buñuel, Luis

1961

28



82

Nashville

Altman, Robert

1975

27



82

Wild Bunch, The

Peckinpah, Sam

1969

27



84

Conformist, The

Bertolucci, Bernardo

1970

26



84

Sherlock Jr.

Keaton, Buster

1924

26



84

Spirit of the Beehive, The

Erice, Victor

1973

26



87

Apartment, The

Wilder, Billy

1960

25



87

Brighter Summer Day, A

Yang, Edward

1991

25



87

Children of Paradise

Carné, Marcel

1945

25



87

Come and See

Klimov, Elem

1985

25



87

Fear Eats the Soul

Fassbinder, Rainer Werner

1974

25



87

Seventh Seal, The

Bergman, Ingmar

1957

25



93

Casablanca

Curtiz, Michael

1942

24



93

Magnificent Ambersons, The

Welles, Orson

1942

24



93

Un chien andalou

Buñuel, Luis

1928

24



93

Wild Strawberries

Bergman, Ingmar

1957

24



97

Last Year at Marienbad

Resnais, Alain

1961

23



97

Olvidados, Los

Buñuel, Luis

1950

23



97

Strada, La

Fellini, Federico

1954

23



100

Blow Up

Antonioni, Michelangelo

1966

22



100

Color of Pomegranates, The

Parajanov, Sergei

1968

22



100

Touki Bouki

Mambéty, Djibril Diop

1973

22



100

Woman Under the Influence, A

Cassavetes, John

1974

22



104

Âge d'Or, L'

Buñuel, Luis

1930

21



104

Goodfellas

Scorsese, Martin

1990

21



104

Gospel According to St. Matthew, The

Antonioni, Michelangelo

1964

21



104

Greed

Von Stroheim, Erich

1924

21



104

Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, The

Powell, Michael & Pressburger, E

1943

21



104

My Life to Live

Godard, Jean Luc

1962

21



104

Travelling Players, The

Angelopoulos, Theo

1975

21



104

Tree of Life, The

Malick, Terrence

2011

21



112

Argent, L'

Bresson, Robert

1983

20



112

Don't Look Now

Roeg, Nicolas

1973

20



112

Dr. Strangelove, Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying...

Kubrick, Stanley

1964

20



112

Imitation of Life

Sirk, Douglas

1959

20



112

Intolerance

Griffith, D.W.

1916

20



112

Matter of Life and Death, A

Powell, Michael & Pressburger, E

1946

20



112

Mouchette

Bresson, Robert

1967

20



112

Partie de campagne

Renoir, Jean

1936

20



112

Yi Yi

Yang, Edward

2000

20



121

Days of Heaven

Malick, Terrence

1978

19



121

Hidden

Haneke, Michael

2005

19



121

Jules and Jim

Truffaut, Francois

1962

19



121

Lady Eve, The

Sturges, Preston

1941

19



121

Man Who Shot Liberty Valence

Ford, John

1962

19



121

Performance

Cammel, Donald & Roeg, Nicolas

1970

19



121

Pulp Fiction

Tarantino, Quentin

1994

19



121

River, The

Renoir, Jean

1951

19



121

Shining, The

Kubrick, Stanley

1980

19



121

Trouble in Paradise

Lubitsch, Ernst

1932

19



121

Two or Three Things I Know About Her

Godard, Jean Luc

1967

19



121

Wavelength

Snow, Michael

1967

19



133

Annie Hall

Allen, Woody

1977

18



133

Do the Right Thing

Lee, Spike

1989

18



133

Earings of Madame de…, The

Ophüls, Max

1953

18



133

Gold Rush, The

Chaplin, Charles

1925

18



133

Ikiru

Kurosawa, Akira

1952

18



133

Ivan the Terrible

Eisenstein, Sergei

1944

18



133

Tropical Malady

Weerasethakul, Apichatpong

2004

18



140

Badlands

Malick, Terrence

1973

17



140

Hiroshima Mon Amour

Resnais, Alain

1959

17



140

Last Laugh, The

Murnau, F.W.

1924

17



140

Letter From an Unknown Woman

Ophüls, Max

1948

17



140

Meshes of the Afternoon

Deren, Maya

1943

17



140

Passenger, The

Antonioni, Michelangelo

1975

17



140

To Be or Not to Be

Lubitsch, Ernst

1942

17



147

Black Narcissus

Powell, Michael & Pressburger, E

1947

16



147

Blue

Kieslowski, Krzysztof

1993

16



147

Bringing Up Baby

Hawks, Howard

1938

16



147

City of Sadness, A

Hsiao-hsien, Hou

1989

16



147

Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, The

Leone, Sergio

1966

16



147

Great Dictator, The

Chaplin, Charles

1940

16



147

Memories of Underdevelopment

Alea, Tomás Gutiérrez

1968

16



147

Napoleon

Gance, Abel

1927

16



147

Nosferatu

Murnau, F.W.

1922

16



147

Red Shoes, The

Powell, Michael & Pressburger, E

1948

16



147

Salò, or The 120 Days of Sodom

Pasolini, Pier Paolo

1975

16



147

Spring in a Small Town

Fei, Mu

1948

16



147

There Will Be Blood

Anderson, Paul Thomas

2007

16



160

Breaking the Waves

Von Trier, Lars

1996

15



160

Canterbury Tale, A

Powell, Michael & Pressburger, E

1944

15



160

Celine and Julie Go Boating

Rivette, Jacques

1974

15



160

Chungking Express

Kar-Wai, Wong

1994

15



160

Clockwork Orange, A

Kubrick, Stanley

1971

15



160

E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial

Spielberg, Steven

1982

15



160

Faces

Cassavetes, John

1968

15



160

Hour of the Wolf

Bergman, Ingmar

1968

15



160

Husbands

Cassavetes, John

1970

15



160

Kes

Loach, Ken

1969

15



160

Meet Me in St. Louis

Minnelli, Vincente

1944

15



160

Once Upon a Time in America

Leone, Sergio

1984

15



160

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

Forman, Miloš

1975

15



160

Umbrellas of Cherbourg, The

Demy, Jacques

1964

15



160

Vampyr

Dreyer, Carl Theodor

1932

15



160

Werckmeister Harmonies, The

Tarr, Béla

2000

15



176

Brief Encounter

Lean, David

1945

14



176

Cries and Whispers

Bergman, Ingmar

1972

14



176

Diary of a Country Priest

Bresson, Robert

1951

14



176

Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, The

Buñuel, Luis

1972

14



176

Manhattan

Allen, Woody

1979

14



176

My Neighbor Totoro

Miyazaki, Hayao

1988

14



176

Rome Open City

Rossellini, Roberto

1945

14



176

Samouraï, Le

Melville, Jean-Pierre

1967

14



176

Solaris

Tarkovsky, Andrei

1972

14



176

Thin Red Line, The

Malick, Terrence

1998

14



176

Wizard of Oz, The

Fleming, Victor etc.

1939

14



187

Chimes at Midnight

Welles, Orson

1966

13



187

Exterminating Angel, The

Buñuel, Luis

1962

13



187

Germany Year Zero

Rossellini, Roberto

1948

13



187

Grapes of Wrath

Ford, John

1940

13



187

I Am Cuba

Kalatozov, Mikhail

1964

13



187

Jaws

Spielberg, Steven

1975

13



187

Kind Hearts and Coronets

Hamer, Robert

1949

13



187

Marketa Lazarová

Vláčil, František

1967

13



187

Out 1

Rivette, Jacques

1971

13



187

Rocco and his Brothers

Visconti, Luchio

1960

13



187

Star Wars

Lucas, George

1977

13



187

Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives

Weerasethakul, Apichatpong

2010

13



199

Belle de Jour

Buñuel, Luis

1967

12



199

Big Lebowski

Coen, Joel & Coen, Ethan

1998

12



199

Conversation, The

Coppola, Francis Ford

1974

12



199

Day of Wrath

Dreyer, Carl Theodor

1943

12



199

Death of Mr. Lazarescu, The

Puiu, Cristi

2005

12



199

Distant Voices, Still Lives

Davies, Terence

1988

12



199

Earth

Dovzhenko, Aleksandr

1930

12



199

Eraserhead

Lynch, David

1977

12



199

In a Lonely Place

Ray, Nicholas

1950

12



199

It's a Wonderful Life

Capra, Frank

1946

12



199

King Kong

Cooper, Merian C. & Schoedsack

1933

12



199

Life of Oharu, The

Mizoguchi, Kenji

1952

12



199

Melancholia

Von Trier, Lars

2011

12



199

My Darling Clementine

Ford, John

1946

12



199

Notorious

Hitchcock, Alfred

1946

12



199

Only Angels Have Wings

Hawks, Howard

1939

12



199

Out of the Past

Tourneur, Jacques

1947

12



199

Story of the Late Chrysanthemums, The

Mizoguchi, Kenji

1939

12



199

Sweet Smell of Success

Mackendrick, Alexander

1957

12



199

Tabu

Murnau, F.W.

1931

12



199

Videodrome

Cronenberg, David

1983

12



199

Zéro de conduite

Vigo, Jean

1933

12



221

Ashes & Diamonds

Wajda, Andrzej

1958

11



221

Berlin Alexanderplatz

Fassbinder, Rainer Werner

1980

11



221

Deer Hunter, The

Cimino, Michael

1977

11



221

His Girl Friday

Hawks, Howard

1940

11



221

Killing of a Chinese Bookie, The

Cassavetes, John

1976

11



221

Love Streams

Cassavetes, John

1984

11



221

Music Room, The

Ray, Satyajit

1958

11



221

Opening Night

Cassavetes, John

1977

11



221

Paisà

Rossellini, Roberto

1946

11



221

Piano, The

Campion, Jane

1993

11



221

Russian Ark

Sokurov, Aleksandr

2002

11



221

Spirited Away

Miyazaki, Hayao

2001

11



221

Thin Blue Line, The

Morris, Errol

1988

11



221

Trip to the Moon, A

Méliès, Georges

1902

11



221

Umberto D

De Sica, Vittorio

1952

11



236

A nos Amours

Pialat, Maurice

1983

10



236

Army of Shadows

Melville, Jean-Pierre

1969

10



236

Big Sleep, The

Hawks, Howard

1946

10



236

Blissfully Yours

Weerasethakul, Apichatpong

2002

10



236

Crimes and Misdemeanors

Allen, Woody

1989

10



236

Devil Probably, The

Bresson, Robert

1977

10



236

Floating Clouds

Naruse, Mikio

1955

10



236

I Was Born, But...

Ozu, Yasujiro

1932

10



236

Killer of Sheep

Burnett, Charles

1977

10



236

Listen to Britain

Jennings, Humphrey

1942

10



236

My Night at Maud's

Rohmer, Eric

1969

10



236

Night and Fog

Resnais, Alain

1955

10



236

Nights of Cabiria

Fellini, Federico

1957

10



236

Notte, La

Antonioni, Michelangelo

1961

10



236

Pandora's Box

Murnau, F.W.

1929

10



236

Paths of Glory

Kubrick, Stanley

1957

10



236

Puppetmaster

Hsiao-hsien, Hou

1993

10



236

Red

Kieslowski, Krzysztof

1994

10



236

Red River

Hawks, Howard

1948

10



236

Rosemary's Baby

Polanski, Roman

1968

10



236

Shop Around the Corner, The

Lubitsch, Ernst

1940

10



236

Tale of Tales, A

Norstein, Yuri

1979

10



236

Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The

Hooper, Tobe

1974

10



236

Through the Olive Trees

Kiarostami, Abbas

1994

10



236

Wanda

Loden, Barbara

1970

10



236

Where is My Friend's House

Kiarostami, Abbas

1987

10



236

White Ribbon, The

Haneke, Michael

2009

10



236

Wings of Desire

Wenders, Wim

1987

10



264

Alien

Scott, Ridley

1979

9



264

All About Eve

Mankiewicz, Joseph L.

1950

9



264

Best Years of Our Lives, The

Wyler, William

1946

9



264

Birds, The

Hitchcock, Alfred

1963

9



264

Black God, White Devil

Rocha, Glauber

1964

9



264

Cabinet of Dr. Caligari

Wiene, Robert

1919

9



264

Chelsea Girls

Morressey, Paul & Warhol, Andy

1966

9



264

Cleo from 5 to 7

Varda, Agnès

1962

9



264

Cloud-Capped Star, The

Ghatak, Ritwik

1960

9



264

Colossal Youth

Costa, Pedro

2006

9



264

Death in Venice

Visconti, Luchio

1971

9



264

Dogville

Von Trier, Lars

2003

9



264

Double Life of Veronique, The

Kieslowski, Krzysztof

1991

9



264

Duck Soup

McCarey, Leo

1933

9



264

F for Fake

Welles, Orson

1974

9



264

Festen

Vinterberg, Thomas

1998

9



264

Gone with the Wind

Fleming, Victor etc.

1939

9



264

Green Ray, The

Rohmer, Eric

1986

9



264

Happy Together

Kar-Wai, Wong

1997

9



264

House is Black, The

Farrokhzad, Forugh

1963

9



264

I Know Where I'm Going!

Powell, Michael & Pressburger, E.

1945

9



264

In a Year with 13 Moons

Fassbinder, Rainer Werner

1978

9



264

Ivan's Childhood

Tarkovsky, Andrei

1962

9



264

Kings of the Road

Wenders, Wim

1976

9



264

Marnie

Hitchcock, Alfred

1964

9



264

Nanook of the North

Flaherty, Robert J.

1922

9



264

Nostalghia

Tarkovsky, Andrei

1983

9



264

Paris, Texas

Wenders, Wim

1984

9



264

Ran

Kurosawa, Akira

1985

9



264

Separation, A

Farhadi, Asghar

2011

9



264

Touch of Zen, A

Hu, King

1969

9



295

Autumn Afternoon, An

Ozu, Yasujiro

1962

8



295

Band Wagon, The

Minnelli, Vincente

1953

8



295

Crowd, The

Vidor, King

1928

8



295

Daisies

Chytilová, Věra

1966

8



295

Enigma of Kaspar Hauser, The

Herzog, Werner

1974

8



295

Fargo

Coen, Joel & Coen, Ethan

1995

8



295

Groundhog Day

Ramis, Harold

1993

8



295

How Green Was My Valley

Ford, John

1941

8



295

Johnny Guitar

Ray, Nicholas

1954

8



295

Magnolia

Anderson, Paul Thomas

1999

8



295

October

Eisenstein, Sergei

1927

8



295

Pyaasa

Dutt, Guru

1957

8



295

Quince Tree of the Sun

Erice, Victor

1992

8



295

Red Desert

Antonioni, Michelangelo

1964

8



295

Rise of Louis XIV, The

Rossellini, Roberto

1966

8



295

Rosetta

Dardenne, Luc & Jean-Pierre

1999

8



295

Shadows

Cassavetes, John

1959

8



295

Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors

Parajanov, Sergei

1964

8



295

Sicilia!

Straub, Jean-Marie & Huillet, D.

1999

8



295

Stromboli

Rossellini, Roberto

1950

8



295

Taste of Cherry

Kiarostami, Abbas

1997

8



295

Testament of Dr. Mabuse, The

Lang, Fritz

1933

8



295

Throne of Blood

Kurosawa, Akira

1957

8



295

Turin Horse

Tarr, Béla

2011

8



295

Walkabout

Roeg, Nicolas

1971

8



295

Wall*E

Stanton, Andrew

2008

8



295

West of the Tracks

Wang, Bing

2003

8



295

Wind Will Carry Us, The

Kiarostami, Abbas

1999

8



295

World of Apu, The

Ray, Satyajit

1959

8



324

All About My Mother

Almodóvar, Pedro

1999

7



324

All That Heaven Allows

Sirk, Douglas

1955

7



324

Black Girl

Sembene, Ousmane

1965

7



324

Boudu Saved from Drowning

Renoir, Jean

1932

7



324

By the Bluest of Seas

Barnet, Boris

1936

7



324

Cranes Are Flying

Kalatozov, Mikhail

1957

7



324

Crime of Monsieur Lange, The

Renoir, Jean

1935

7



324

Days of Being Wild

Kar-Wai, Wong

1990

7



324

Dekalog

Kieslowski, Krzysztof

1988

7



324

Double Indemnity

Wilder, Billy

1944

7



324

Early Summer

Ozu, Yasujiro

1951

7



324

Edvard Munch

Watkins, Peter

1974

7



324

Eyes Without a Face

Franju, Georges

1959

7



324

Five Easy Pieces

Rafelson, Bob

1970

7



324

Flowers of Shanghai

Hsiao-hsien, Hou

1998

7



324

French Cancan

Renoir, Jean

1955

7



324

Grido, Il

Antonioni, Michelangelo

1957

7



324

High and Low

Kurosawa, Akira

1963

7



324

Idiots, The

Von Trier, Lars

1998

7



324

If....

Anderson, Lindsay

1968

7



324

Inland Empire

Lynch, David

2006

7



324

Kid, The

Chaplin, Charles

1921

7



324

King of Comedy, The

Scorsese, Martin

1983

7



324

Koyaanisqatsi

Reggio, Godfrey

1983

7



324

Lady from Shanghai, The

Welles, Orson

1947

7



324

Landscape in the Mist

Angelopoulos, Theo

1988

7



324

Last Picture Show, The

Bogdanovich, Peter

1971

7



324

Lost Highway

Lynch, David

1997

7



324

Make Way for Tomorrow

McCarey, Leo

1937

7



324

McCabe & Mrs. Miller

Altman, Robert

1971

7



324

Moment of Innocence, A

Makhmalbaf, Mohsen

1996

7



283

Nouvelle vague

Godard, Jean Luc

1990

7



323

Plaisir, Le

Ophüls, Max

1952

7



323

Quiet Man, The

Ford, John

1952

7



323

Région centrale, La

Snow, Michael

1971

7



323

Safe

Haynes, Todd

1995

7



323

Silent Light

Reygadas, Carlos

2007

7



323

Stagecoach

Ford, John

1939

7



235

Sullivan's Travels

Sturges, Preston

1942

7



324

Two-Lane Blacktop

Hellman, Monte

1971

7



324

Underground

Kusturica, Emir

1995

7



324

Wagon Master

Ford, John

1950

7



324

Xala

Sembene, Ousmane

1975

7



324

Yeelen

Cissé, Souleymane

1987

7



324

Young Girls of Rochefort, The

Demy, Jacques

1967

7

 

[Brian W.]

HTF combination of the Sight and Sound Directors and Critics list:

Thanks, Adam! Wow, so "Kane" is STILL number two, even with the combined list! I wasn't sure it would be.

 

[Michael Elliott]

It's certainly an interesting list.
Just a few observations but......
VERTIGO: I don't know too many people who even feel this is Hitchcock's best film. Heck, I think most people prefer REAR WINDOW from just the Stewart/Hitch teamings.
2001: Again, I think I know more people who prefer other Kubrick films over this one.
APOCA NOW: Seems more people I know prefer THE GODFATHER. Speaking of which, seems like TG2 has become more of a favorite.
TAXI DRIVER: Again, it seems like more people would prefer GOODFELLAS.
MAN WITH A MOVIE CAMERA: Really????
A night or two ago I watched the second film in Godard's CINEMA series and while it was slightly better than the first, I still have to laugh and really wonder how so many people could consider it one of the greatest films ever made. I mean, better than INTOLERANCE, BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN, ON THE WATERFRONT or SCENES FROM A MARRIAGE? I'm just using these titles as they make up part of my own top 5 but those are films you rarely see anyone give a "low" score to while CINEMA is often bashed, not taken serious, couldn't get a release and it seems not too many even want to bother with it. I know this has a wide group of people voting but it's still shocking that there are so many Godard lovers who were able to get this film on the list while certain other titles didn't make it.

 

[give-me-theater]

I like these lists. On August 22, I will make an ultimate list of movies based on this list and it will include all the movies that got 2 or more votes from BOTH the directors AND the critics. So then there will be no only-one-vote-from-a-group-randomness. This, I have done with the 2002 list already.

 

[mattCR]

Michael:
I will say this, while there are other Hitchcock films I enjoy more, Vertigo to me is Hitchcock's closest to perfect film. Every time I watch I rethink some of my ideas on the story; I find the acting is fantastic, the use of the camera, color and setting it be phenomenal. I won't deny that I enjoy the plot of North by Northwest more; or that (to me) "Trouble With Harry" is his most underappreciated work. But I come back to Vertigo repeatedly because of how well I feel the story clicks together, and that all the small pieces are so good.

The same generally applies with 2001. I would agree, there are other Kubrick films that I think are deserving, but to me, 2001 is an undeniable masterpiece of direction, beauty, cinematography as well as timing & pace.

The thing about the BFI list is it's a very "old boys" club. Look at the list, and you'll find the newest film there is Mulholland Drive, the only film since 2000. There are some changes I would make, but I can't fault any film on the list really. There are films I care for "more", and I sometimes think the only way to legitimately do this is to say "Top 50: Pre-1944" "Top 50: Post-1944" Because too much nostalgia and the praise of innovation when the format is new elevates films tha tI don't think otherwise would be there (IMHO)

 

[Adam_S]

The interesting thing about Kubrick, Ozu, Hitchcock, Welles, Kurosawa, Renoir, Murnau, Lang, Lean etc (and from the newer generation Scorsese, Spielberg, Coppola etc) is that they all made multiple films that are worthy of being included in 'The' top ten. With Kubrick, Ozu, Ford, Hitchcock, Welles & Renoir they benefit from having an extremely defined 'top' film.

Now this is always up for contentious debate, but everyone in the cine community (such as the critic voters) knows that Vertigo, 2001, Tokyo Story, Rules of the Game, The Searchers & Citizen Kane are considered the pinnacles of their directors career. Interestingly, I disagree with all these assessments except for Citizen Kane, that is Welles' best film. In fact, I would say most people do disagree with these assessments, Vertigo may have accrued 191 votes--but that also means that less than 20% of critics worldwide think that Vertigo is one of the Best films ever made or think it's Hitchcock's best film--basically disagreement is the rule not the exception, we just tend to filter the disagreement and call it agreement when we make these lists.

Things get trickier for filmmakers like Coppola and Kurosawa, Scorsese, Lean, Lang, Powell & Pressburger, Wilder etc. Their best film is still up for debate, is it Godfather 1 or 2 or maybe Apocalypse Now? Is it Raging Bull or Taxi Driver or maybe Goodfellas or Hugo or Departed? Is it Seven Samurai or Rashomon or maybe Ikiru or High & Low? Is it Metropolis or M or Mabuse? Red Shoes or Black Narcissus? Perhaps a Matter of Life & Death of Colonel Blimp? The Apartment or Some Like it Hot, or maybe Sunset Blvd?

It's actually these directors I've chosen that are more common. Having a singular film be the only thing that is beloved--and beloved universally--seems to be much more rare. The problem of Coppola is more widespread than we think

Critics will be terrified to include Spielberg films in their top tens until Spielberg dies. Hitchcock was a guilty pleasure for critics until the eighties, never was he considered to have real artistic merit until after he died, the same will be true for his heir. I've seen Jaws crop up on a number of directors lists that have been posted on the web and I expect it will place in the directors top fifty. Once Spielberg dies the hagiography will begin though and he'll get his due.

Personally I think it's a shame that the 'other films' of the directors with the singular masterpiece tend to get overshadowed. That's because I prefer How Green Was My Valley to the Searchers, Psycho to Vertigo, Grand Illusion to Rules of the Game, Paths of Glory to 2001, There was a Father to Tokyo Story. And so on and so forth.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Originally Posted by mattCR /t/322711/bfi-sight-sound-2012-list-greatest-movies#post_3958591
Michael:
I will say this, while there are other Hitchcock films I enjoy more, Vertigo to me is Hitchcock's closest to perfect film. Every time I watch I rethink some of my ideas on the story; I find the acting is fantastic, the use of the camera, color and setting it be phenomenal. I won't deny that I enjoy the plot of North by Northwest more; or that (to me) "Trouble With Harry" is his most underappreciated work. But I come back to Vertigo repeatedly because of how well I feel the story clicks together, and that all the small pieces are so good.

The same generally applies with 2001. I would agree, there are other Kubrick films that I think are deserving, but to me, 2001 is an undeniable masterpiece of direction, beauty, cinematography as well as timing & pace.

The thing about the BFI list is it's a very "old boys" club. Look at the list, and you'll find the newest film there is Mulholland Drive, the only film since 2000. There are some changes I would make, but I can't fault any film on the list really. There are films I care for "more", and I sometimes think the only way to legitimately do this is to say "Top 50: Pre-1944" "Top 50: Post-1944" Because too much nostalgia and the praise of innovation when the format is new elevates films tha tI don't think otherwise would be there (IMHO)

To me, Psycho is Hitchcock's masterpiece. I think it's a flawless film while I found Vertigo with too many plot holes to be considered a perfect film.

 

[give-me-theater]

One film that should not be on the list in my opinion is "Mulholland Drive". It is very pretentious.
I would include the following films: Napoleon, Bicycle thieves, Rashomon, Sweet Smell of Success, Andrei Rublev, The Conformist, Taxi Driver, Blade Runner, Pretty Village Pretty Flame and No Country For Old Men. Maybe you strongly disagree!

 

[mattCR]

Originally Posted by Robert Crawford /t/322711/bfi-sight-sound-2012-list-greatest-movies#post_3958621
To me, Psycho is Hitchcock's masterpiece. I think it's a flawless film while I found Vertigo with too many plot holes to be considered a perfect film.

Hmm. I always feel with Vertigo that the narrative is it's own thing, while others nitpick plot issues, I find it completely rewarding and draw from it differently every time. Psycho is a great film, I enjoy it, but it's probably my fourth or fifth favorite Hitchcock. (Vertigo, North by Northwest, Room with a View are easily my top, then it drops to my next set)

But all that said, it's funny arguing between films that are still works of greatness decades later.. it's a bit like saying "I prefer this Monet over that one.."

 

[Robert Crawford]

Originally Posted by mattCR /t/322711/bfi-sight-sound-2012-list-greatest-movies#post_3958652


Hmm. I always feel with Vertigo that the narrative is it's own thing, while others nitpick plot issues, I find it completely rewarding and draw from it differently every time. Psycho is a great film, I enjoy it, but it's probably my fourth or fifth favorite Hitchcock. (Vertigo, North by Northwest, Room with a View are easily my top, then it drops to my next set)

But all that said, it's funny arguing between films that are still works of greatness decades later.. it's a bit like saying "I prefer this Monet over that one.."

Nitpick hasn't little to do with it, the plot has big holes in it like Stewart conveniently running across Novak again in a city the size of San Francisco. Furthermore, favortism is not in play here as Psycho is far from my favorite Hitchcock film, but it is clearly his best film in my opinion.