Best Picture Quality Ever (SEABISCUIT and others)

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  1. Larry Talbot

    Larry Talbot Second Unit

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    I'm sure this is old news to most of you but I just saw Seabiscuit for the first time last night. I thought the movie was okay - a little corny in places - but man the picture quality was hands down the best I've ever seen on DVD. I have several supposedly reference quality discs and Seabiscuit utterly destroys them. Just breathtaking clarity with no flaws whatsoever, something that is very rare on my 82-inch wide screen. Nothing else even comes close to this disc. I wish I liked the movie a little more, because I would buy it for sure.
     
  2. Patrick McCart

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    Yesterday's best becomes tomorrow's worst.
     
  3. Chuck C

    Chuck C Cinematographer

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    I agree, Larry...Seabiscuit looked awesome! With each passing Tuesday, DVDs hit a new level of reference. In fact, is there anymore room for improvement?
     
  4. Larry Talbot

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    "Yesterday's best becomes tomorrow's worst."

    I get what you're saying, as a generality, but in this specific instance, I disagree. Seabiscuit IS leagues ahead of every other DVD I've seen, period. Seven PE, Training Day, Mullholland Drive, Toy Story, Below - all films I own that stand out from the rest of the pack - all bunched up and left far behind in Seabiscuit's wake. Like I said - nothing else comes close.
     
  5. Ernest Rister

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    Well, I'll be the first one to admit that when I'm reading DVD reviews and the critics start getting into some of the fine details of the transfer, I start feeling like I'm reading one of my father's old chemistry books.

    Still, I think - like many things in art - perceived quality involves some small measure of subjectivity. Do you like film grain? Some do. Do you like a more natural "film" look, as opposed to a sharp "digital" look? Some do.

    That's why I don't think it is ever possible to quantify any work of art - or even any work of man - as the "greatest achievement ever". At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is what is most important to you.

    Having said that -- here are my choices for the best transfers I've seen recently:

    Sleeping Beauty: SE
    Once Upon a Time in the West: SE
    20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: SE
    Finding Nemo
    Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
    Casablanca (Warner Bros. Collection)

    Great work.
     
  6. Kristoffer

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    Mine would be
    Matrix Reloaded
    Alien ( quad )
    Terminator 2 EE
    Indiana Jones and the raieders of the lost ark
    Once upon a time in the west
    Two Towers EE
    Fellowepship of the ring..
     
  7. Marc Colella

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    The best I've seen so far is The Pledge.

    When they want to, Warner can really do some beautiful transfers.
     
  8. dpippel

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    Seabiscuit is indeed a gorgeous transfer, but one that would have been much better without the edge enhancement it suffers from. It's not BAD, but definitely noticable.

    My reference transfer of the last 6 months has been, surprisingly enough Undercover Brother. If you haven't seen this you're in for a surprise. Not only is the film *hilarious* (and one that gets better with each subsequent viewing), the 1.85:1 anamorphic transfer is simply stunning. Stunning! Color saturation and detail are spot-on throughout. On my ISF calibrated Hitachi 57SWX20B it's the most high-def looking DVD transfer of a filmed movie that I've seen yet.
     
  9. Robert Harris

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    Seabiscuit was produced via DI (digital intermediate).

    The DVD may have either been produced directly from the digital files or via a normal film to tape transfer.

    RAH
     
  10. Jonathan Carter

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    The best I've seen recently are:

    Underworld
    Freddy Vs. Jason
    Finding Nemo
    The Lion King: Special Edition
    LOTR:TTT Extended Edition
     
  11. Lou Sytsma

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    Glengarry Glenn Ross has exceptional video as well.
     
  12. Herb Kane

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    Ernest... very well said.

    I'll second Lou's choice of Glengarry Glenn Ross - the facial detail is a sight to behold (did ya ever think we'd be giving such praise to Artisan...?). I'll also add the Bad And The Beautiful as one of the best B&W transfers I have ever seen.


    Herb.
     
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    I thought that the recent restoration of 1938's Robin Hood was truly exceptional with Glorious Technicolor
     
  14. RobertR

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    It helps if someone lists his equipment when praising a transfer. For me, it has to look good based on how it looks on a CRT front projector with a large screen.
     
  15. Shawn_KE

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    The Matrix Reloaded's picture quality is pretty tuff to beat as well as it's sound.
     
  16. Zen Butler

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    Fifth Element (SB) hands down for "digital" look. Ernest brings up a good point.

    For a more "film" like look.
    Once Upon a Time in th West
    LOTR:FOTR- although I'm not floored by the movie itself.

    Most recently, Underworld is amazing. For a film so dark.


    EDIT: DV CRT
     
  17. KimK

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    Freddy vs Jason definitely has a first class transfer and I don't think I've seen it done better.
     
  18. Jeff D Han

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    My 2 cents-

    Black And White movies-

    Casablanca 2 disc SE
    Sunset Boulevard


    Color movies-

    Matrix Reloaded
    X2: X Men United
    Fellowship Of The Ring
    Terminator 2 Extreme Edition
    Alien 2 disc SE
     
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    American History X
     
  20. Dave Mack

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    Check out the Bjoern site in regards to FOTR... Some interesting obervations as to the softness....
    TT had a bit too much EE for my taste.
    Training Day blows away the LOTR discs as far as detail IMHO... Just stunning...
     

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