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Blu-ray Review Bell Book and Candle Blu-ray Review

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Richard Gallagher, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. JohnMor

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    Have mine on order. Can't wait to receive it. Always been charmed by this film.
    Hoping Sony will allow Twilight Time to put out a blu of their sole Doris Day title, It Happened to Jane, which was also directed by Quine and co-starred Jack Lemmon and Ernie Kovacs, with a score by George Duning. Sweet, funny, totally underrated film.
     
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    Bewitched was inspired from Bell Book And Candle.
    Why are all these Twilight Time releases, so expensive? $35 for a Blu-ray, for that I could get a DVD and a Blu-ray, maybe even more. I know it's limited release and all, but make the prices more realistic, its not like these releases are big "Collector Editions" ala WB.
     
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    According to a statement made by the creator of TV's BEWITCHED, it was both BELL BOOK AND CANDLE and the wonderful 1942 film, I MARRIED A WITCH that were his inspirations.
     
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    Keeping in mind the cultural stereotypes of the 1950's, simply replace the terms "warlock/witch" by "gay/lesbian".
    There is no explicit homoerotic content in the film, it is simply an analogy, but a very powerful one.
     
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    I think some are searching for something that's not there.
     
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    Yet, there is another interpretation. John Van Druten was gay, most famous for his play I Am a Camera, which became Cabaret. But, in Open Secret, David Ehrenstein notes that Bell, Book and Candle is his gayest work. "No one with any degree of familiarity with post WWII Greenwich Village will have any trouble seeing the "witches" and "warlocks" of this romantic fantasy for the gays and lesbians they really are, even in the midst of a purely heterosexual main plot." So, there are three ways of watching this glamorous product of the twilight of the Hollywood studio era. Uncritically, enjoying the superb comic performances and exquisite production design, as a pre-feminist cautionary tale, or with an intriguing subtext the author slipped magically through the Hollywood Production Code.
    http://www.moviediva.com/MD_root/reviewpages/MDBellBookCandle.htm
     
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    That did not take much searching. :)
    Let's see: folks who have their own clubs.
    They have their own subculture with it own's unique qualities.
    They can be among you and you don't even know it.
    Others (circa 1950s) are frightened of them, demonize them,
    and alleged subject "experts" write hokey, ignorance-filled books about them.
    Gee, I wonder which minority group that might be? ;)
     
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    :)
    Masons? :)
     
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    I never made the connection and I still don't see it.
     
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    Correct - the street scenes were shot on a realistic backlot and those are interspersed with real shots of the city. The scene where Stewart throws his hat off the roof of the Flatiron building looks like it was shot early in the morning on a Saturday or Sunday, given the absence of traffic. As you say, it has a real New York feel to it.
     
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    Too bad there's no actual Zodiac Club to vist in New York City.
     
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    Maybe there is, but we poor mortals just don't know about it.
     
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    One can love Citizen Kane and know nothing about William Randolph Hearst. :)
    I think for most gay men who grew up knowing what it felt like to be invisible (anyone born before 1970), who
    then moved to and urban center to find the secret clubs (back when there was still a free local community call center that gave bar directions)
    and the whole hidden world that most straights were not privy to, this movie's analogy seems a pretty clear.
    And then set the movie in Greenwich Village, where Allen Ginsberg and the Beat Generation were hanging out, being free and open about who they were and what they were doing in bed with each other, and there you go.
     
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    I've always found this to be as obvious a gay parable as Frankenstein and The Wolf Man.
     
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    Some people just think too much, Bell Book And Candle is just a romantic-comedy about witchcraft.
     
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    I think they're a lovely couple.
    [​IMG]
     
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    And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
    But, when the playwright is gay and says the witches are an allegory for homosexuals,
    being ignorant of that fact doesn't make it not true.
    This reminds me of chats with friends who saw Fried Green Tomatoes and did not realize that Idgie and Ruth were a lesbian couple.
    (The novel clearly spells that out.) The film made it so gay folks easily picked up on it, but folks with no gaydar wouldn't be offended.
    In either case it did not change the fact that they were a lesbian couple whether one was aware of it or not.
     
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    Once a piece of art is there to be seen by all, it can be anything you want it to be based on how you interpret that art. It doesn't matter what a playwright or artist intended it to be, as personal interpretation overrides that intention.

    Anyway, back to the BRD itself, I'm still waiting for my copy as I ordered it along with The Big Heat and another title.




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    What happened to "I think some are searching for something that's not there." from page 1 of this thread?
    That contradicts " it can be anything you want it to be based on how you interpret that art..." doesn't it?
    I, too, am looking forward to The Big Heat!
    I never thought I would be ordering so many titles from Twilight Time.
     
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