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Discussion in 'Playback Devices' started by Patrick.C, Mar 20, 2008.
From PS3 goes BD-Live in upcoming firmware update - PS3 Fanboy
Profile 2.0 and still no DTS-MA support? GAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Rumor has it that DTS-MA internal decoding will never be possible due to hardware limitations. They simply did not include the hardware necessary for internal decoding of DTS-MA and it can't be done by software.
That's the first I have heard of that rumor. Are you sure you aren't mixing that up with the fact that the hardware is limited and will never be able to use BITSTREAM with either new format? It was officially announced by Sony that DTS-MA would be supported in a future update.
My understanding was the same as Adam's - that DTS-MA streaming was not possible due to an early variant of HDMI 1.3 which the PS3 uses and will not stream that codec. In the end it doesn't really matter for me because I'm going to have to update an expensive piece of hardware regardless. Either my NAD T763 receiver (which doesn't decode the HD formats) or my PS3 (which, even if it does decode it, it doesn't have 5.1 outs and my T763 can't do PCM 5.1 over coaxial/optical). So if I keep my receiver, I'm going to have to buy the new Sony or Panasonic BD player coming out this spring/summer.
If you read the forums and the blogs, people go back and forth over both internal decoding and bitstream. Sony is mute about either, so any firm stance is rumor and/or speculation.
It's only the bitstreaming aspect that's rumored to be limited by hardware, and even that isn't an absolute certainty. I believe it is limited since players that pass the bitstream have existed for awhile, and the PS3 hasn't been updated to pass it. Unless it's just that Sony really wants all decoding to be done inside the PS3 for menu sounds, advanced feature audio mixing, etc. The PS3 has more than ample processing power to decode DTS MA internally, which NO OTHER PLAYER DOES at this point. Please don't regurgitate the absolutely 100% inaccurate info that it is incapable of decoding it. Don't expect the update until AFTER the Sony and Panasonic players with internal decoding hit the market this summer. I'd say mid to late summer. Insiders have virtually guaranteed it is coming. The CEs need features to tout to sell their new elite players and if the PS3 beat them to market with everything while undercutting the price they wouldn't be happy. Why do you think all the CE's except Toshiba backed Blu-ray? They wanted to make money, and Sony and the BDA have obviously guaranteed their ability. After the Chinese players ruined the DVD market for them, they wouldn't want the PS3 doing the same thing for HD. The PS3 is a bargain as the most full-featured and reliable BD hardware available. The budget price just means you have to wait a little longer for some things, and really they've been very short waits. Most people don't even remember when it was updated to upscale DVDs, add 24 Hz processing, add forced 24 Hz processing... We got 1.1 fast. Not that much of a wait for 2.0. It probably won't be much of a wait for DTS HD MA either once there are other decoding players out there.
Woo Hoo! Finally.
Edit: Grant basically just said everything I was going to type.
That's been my understanding, unless there's new info?
So can either of you provide a link to back up your claim that DTS-MA can't be decoded in software?
Thank you sir. NOW HURRY THE **** UP SONY!
The new firmware is live. Happy downloading!
The above link doesn't have the 2.20 update either. Paul
Even the Blu-ray.com site has the PLAYSTATION 3 System Software Update (v2.20) link, but has the message: "NO download file available" on the Green "Download" button. Paul
FYI: The latest information from another site is: v.2.20 is "on the playstation network only, can't get it through PC yet..." and "What good is Live if you're not connected to the net..." Paul
Yup, downloaded it last night. Automatic download on the PS3 if select.
Just did my update via Wi-Fi and it took about 5 min. Couldn't have been easier.
FYI: Found a FW v2.20 direct link download: Download PS3 Firmware 2.20 from this page site. Paul