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3D Blu-ray Review Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition 3D Blu-ray Review

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  1. Message #1 of 20 Jul 16, 2016
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    Ken_McAlinden

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    ken_mcalinden In their first step towards expanding their stable of DC superhero properties into a common cinematic universe, Warner Bros. pits their two biggest franchise characters against each other in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. This 3D Ultimate Edition Blu-ray release includes three different presentations of the film, each on a separate Blu-ray disc. It includes a 3D Blu-ray of the...
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    Thanks for the review!

    I’ve had my copy of the Extended Cut on preorder for quite some time and am looking forward to viewing it.

    It's good to hear that the 3D version of the Theatrical cut is decent, but I doubt I'll be viewing that iteration of the movie again, so I'm just "making do" with the 2D package.
     
  3. Colin Jacobson

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    I wasn't happy with the 3D version. I found too much ghosting on my Panny plasma - frequent distraction and way worse than any of the 30 or so 3D BDs I've watched on my set.

    Not sure how TV-dependent ghosting is, but it became a significant problem on my set...
     
  4. Josh Steinberg

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    It's generally entirely based on the display device rather than the transfer on the disc - most modern films, especially those post-converted that have neither extreme depth nor extreme pop out, should have zero crosstalk or ghosting as part of the image itself. However, some televisions and projectors are better at handling it than others.

    I have the disc on preorder - when it arrives, I will post back if I notice any ghosting. (I generally do not get any with my display.) If there are any specific timecodes anyone would like me to check, I'd be happy to.
     
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    For me, I saw the ghosting mainly in darker scenes - which is a lot of the movie, though interiors were worst.

    I really don't recall seeing ghosting like this on other BDs. I occasionally see some light ghosting, but "BvS" was more egregious...
     
  6. Josh Steinberg

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    I'll keep an eye for it next week. When I saw the film theatrically, the choice was between digital IMAX in 3D but with only a 1.90:1 aspect ratio, or 15/70 film IMAX with a 1.44:1 aspect ratio, but in 2D. I went for the 2D version so that I could see the full ratio of what they shot. It's a shame that they forced people to have to make that choice in the first place (a few years ago, it would have been standard to get the 1.44:1 version projected in 3D).
     
  7. Message #7 of 20 Jul 17, 2016
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    Additional note for those interested in digital copies. The included Ultraviolet code unlocks digital copies of both the theatrical and the "Ultimate Edition" extended cut versions of the movie.
     
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    You got the digital copy to work? I tried to activate it so I could watch the TC on my laptop and the UE on my TV at the same time, but I got error messages all weekend!
     
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    I got it to work Saturday night.
     
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    Warner must like you better! :(
     
  11. Message #11 of 20 Jul 18, 2016
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    What method were you trying to use to redeem the Ultraviolet code? If you were doing it through the Vudu service, there is a bit of a trick to it. You have to make sure you indicate that you are redeeming the code for:

    "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Ultimate Edition"

    If you try to redeem it for any of the following titles that come up in the "Redeem Ultraviolet Copy" search bar, you will get an error message:

    • "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - The Ultimate Edition (plus bonus features)"
    • "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (Theatrical)"
    • "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - The Ultimate Edition / Man of Steel (Bundle)"

    Why the one is listed as "Ultimate Edition" and the others are listed as "The Ultimate Edition", is a mystery to me.

    Once successful, even though you appear to have just asked to redeem "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Ultimate Edition", you will actually find that you have redeemed a bundle of the Ultimate Edition and Theatrical Cut versions.
     
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    I did what it told me to do on the insert in the package - went to WB's site and entered the code. Told me to eff myself! :D
     
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    I've heard that same old record before ;)

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    Interesting, because I saw this in IMAX 3D and I noticed ghosting issues in the theatrical presentation. I don't know much about the how the 3D transfers are done, but if there were issues theatrically, would that mean the home video release would have the same issues?
     
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    The IMAX theater near me uses polarized glasses that are really sensitive to even the slightest head tilt.

    That's not an issue with the shutter style glasses I use at home. YMMV
     
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    I guess 3D is a technology that varies based on which form you use - YMMV indeed!

    All I can say is apples/apples, compared to other 3D titles I've watched on my Panny, the ghosting was arguably the worst I've seen...
     
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    That's probably the one downside to the IMAX projection system. RealD uses circular polarization which allows for more head movement, but with linear polarization (the one IMAX uses), the polarization is horizontal on one lens, and vertical on the other, so if you tilt your head, it goes out of whack. The linear ones are supposed to offer higher image quality, which may be why IMAX continues to use them.

    I watched the 3D version on my Epson 5030 projector and did not notice any ghosting. There was one moment early in the film where I thought i saw the faintest hint of ghosting behind a background object, but on closer examination, it appeared to be a shadow. Which is not to say that you're seeing things or making it up, but rather, that the ghosting is something display dependent and not inherent in the disc itself.
     
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    Planning on watching the 3D BD tonight. Can anyone tell me if it features shifting aspect ratios for IMAX scenes? Just so I know how to set my system up.

    Apologies if this has already been covered in this thread but I'm trying to remain as spoiler free as possible!
     
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    Unfortunately (for some of us), no it doesn't. Widescreen from start to finish.

    By the way, anyone ever notice this shot? Didn't picl it up when view the UC in 2D but for some reason it registered when I watched it again in 3D. (goes by quickly)...pretty close recreation of the cover of the Frank Miller DARK KNIGHT RETURNS (The lightning is a little different)
     

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    During the opening scene of the murder of Bruce's parents, EXCALIBUR is on the theater marquee. Later, during the fight with Doomsday, Superman borrows an Arthur-type move from that film. Did anyone else catch any other EXCALIBUR references?
     

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