Heath was known but except for Brokeback, he had not received acting accolades. When he was named as the Joker EVERYONE flipped about how poor a choice it was. When the casting for Batman Begins was being named, alot of people were saying there were too many "big" names and they wouldn't mesh well. All I'm saying is if Nolan thinks someone is worthy of stepping into the Joker's shoes, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. EVERY male casting choice he's made has hit big and he has proven he deserves the lattitude.
Zack, I have to disagree. Penguin can be a very interesting character. If anyone has a chance to get to a comic store this week. Their is a series of one-shots called Joker's Asylum. The first issue was Joker then Penguin and Poison Ivy. But, in the Penguin one. It discusses how because of his physical looks he was humilited growing up and how it has affected him now. In the story he is having dinner and notices the chef and matre'd of a restaurant laughing. He is so messed up he thinks they are laughing at him. Does he kill them? No. He slowly destroys their lives piece by piece (health inspector closing the restaurant, gf deported, etc) until the chef commits suicide. He is a slow methodical killer. Who with his seemingly honest business keeps Bats at bay. Also, their is more to the story showing his true nature.
This is definitely no knock and doesn't speak about his talent but... Tom Hanks is a household name. Will Smith is a household name. Heath Ledger's name alone never could really open a film. A Knight's Tale and Brokeback Mountain were small hits but never blockbusters. Now he's a household name because of Batman but he definitely was not one before. When your grandma knows a name.. that's a household name.
If you dig up the Batman Begins II thread and start around page 6 or so, you'll see that the majority of people who cared (on this forum) were positive about the choice. Maybe people elsewhere were up in arms , not here.
Yea that would be SHH. Some even started a petition.
They freaked out when Heath was announced. Of course they all love the movie and Heaths performance now right?
Trying to explain to those people to calm down, that there must have been something seen in auditions to make the filmmakers make the choice they did, and to have some faith in the filmmaker is a effort in futility.
What I would love to see is something like what was done in the last 2 books of "The Dark Knight Returns" by Frank Miller.
As others have mentioned, the 3rd book is called "Hunt the Dark Knight" and the fourth has him battling none other than Superman. For those that have read those books (and if you have not, you really should!) It would have to be updated and adjusted for the screen, but I think it would make for a spectacular ending to what would essentially be a 3 part movie series.
I could see a female Robin and/or Catwoman playing a part in the third film. Females in Batman's life will definitely be an interesting angle/dynamic to play with now that Rachel's dead.
I also agree that if this is the final film in his trilogy, Nolan will probably go for broke and take alot from the apocalyptic "The Dark Knight Returns". Didn't Alan Moore once describe DKR as Batman's Ragnarök?
I dunno, I think I'd prefer Talia al Ghul to Catwoman honestly in the context of Nolan's world.
My vote is Katrina Kaif as Talia al Ghul:
She's a Bollywood actress, but her first language is English having been raised in Hawaii. How perfect is that second shot anyway? Wowza.
Also from Wikipedia:
In the years since Talia meets Batman, she is repeatedly torn between loyalty to her father and her love of Batman. However, she has proven an important 'ally' in her way; most prominently, she encourages Batman to return to Gotham City when it is declared a "No Man's Land" following an earthquake, and he has lost his fighting spirit and didn't believe he could save Gotham.
Sounds like the character can come and counsel Batman if things get even worse in the third film.
Harley Quinn would also be great in the Nolan universe but how they do that now with the Joker situation up in the air is anyone's guess. Female Robin would be ... interesting, but it also might create the wrong type of sexual tension.
I've learned to avoid any fansites. Force.net, OneRing, Browncoats, B-o-F, Red Sox Nation, etc.
You name it...discourse will very likely be troglodytic. The interest of a fansite is focused on the object of fandom, and the viewpoints will likely be skewed around that. I prefer discourse from the POV of the medium, a bit more objective than you could find at a dedicated website. I'm not pretending I'm not a fanboy
I certainly am.
But I'm one who prefers the company of the somewhat well-rounded.
well i ocassionaly check those sites just for some info, not to spoilerish, but maybe a small video or something during filming. now on to the third film, god willing that nolan will helm it. as i sat in the theater this weekend again, i i came to the realization that unless something had already been filmed with Joker in Arkum Asylum, the best cameo of the next film would be moot, unless they recast, but with the way they have been good enough this series to focus on other events, i would have liked to hear the conversation between the walls of Scarecrow and Joker, half of it of course would have been crane trying to psychoanalyze him, as Batman walks in.