i got pdr10, and somehow the stereo i heard in toys'r'us could thump my chest stronger than the pdr10. there must be something wrong here. the pdr10 sounds full, deep, but on music listening it doesnt really thump my chest. the feeling on my chest is just subtle. on dvd movies the pdr10 is quite good, no problem with it. dont ask me about sub position, since what i am talking about is the phillips stereo that only has two 5 1/4 inch woofers. they put that thing on the shelf, yet the thumping effect can be felt from more than 10 feet. my receiver is denon avr1802, monster cable 12g all around. i got a feeling this is the fault of the cinemas, not the subwoofer. the cinemas have 3 1/2 inch woofer. no bass at all, right? i want that chest thumping effect! help!