I was set on the pioneer vsx-d811s receiver, but than I read its crossover could only get down to 100 hz. Well, gee, is that a big deal? Did some research and found out the desired crossover is at 80 hz for receivers in my budget. The question now is it worth it to drop the pioneer to get something that has a lower crossover. I'm using Paradigm Titans as my mains, which go down to around 60 Hz. I'm not currently using a sub at the moment. Saving up for a SVS 25-31 or 20-39 pci. I do love the 811. Has everything I can ask for, and I enjoy its HT performace.