Basic questions on screen appearance Q and a Center Q as well.

Discussion in 'Beginners, General Questions' started by JasonRabb, Sep 13, 2004.

  1. JasonRabb

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    Hi gang, just getting into home theatre and lovin it so far! What a great thing forum this is!
    So, I have 2 questions that I would love your comments on...

    Question number 1: My Widescreeen Panasonic CT-34WX53 is terrific! I love it, but there is this strange occurance. On SOME dvd's that say they are widescreen, the top and bottom borders are not filled up all the way. There seems to be a 2 - 2.5 inch black bar that is not the normal letterbox that I see if i were to say, change the aspect ratio. No, sometimes Widescreen fills in all the way like normal and other times, there is this small but distinct band at the top and bottom. I thought if I bought a widescreen TV that I wouldn't see ANY letter box residue. Can anyone advise? And it only occurs on some widescreen DVD's, other widescreen dvd's fill in all the way.

    And the second Question: I have B & W speakers with a center. B & W has assured me that their speakers are magnetically shielded and I have no reason to doubt them...they are one of the oldest speaker companies in the world...but I wanted to get your advice gang. I see no problems with putting my center on top of my TV and I am loving it so far. Can I trust B & W and leave it on the top and is there any advantage to having my center lower rather than on top where it looks phat and sounds great? Thanks everyone!!!

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  2. Kevin Stewart

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    1. I stole the following from another site:

    Ok, you bought a widescreen TV, right? That's great. The OLD TVs have an aspect ratio of 1.33:1 (4x3). Your brand new widescreen TV has an aspect ratio of 1.78:1 (16x9). Ok. HD broadcasts are shown in a 1.78:1 aspect ratio and they will fill your screen on your widescreen TV. If it's displayed on your old 4x3 set, it'll have black bars on the top and bottom. Why? Because the 1.78:1 aspect ratio of the program is WIDER than your 1.33:1 TV. So therefore, the image is shrunk to fit the width of your TV, thus leaving black bars. Ok, you're getting it now.

    So, what about movies? Well, most movies are either filmed in a 1.85:1 aspect ratio, or a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. Yeah, the DVD may say 16x9 on it, but what that means is that it's "ENHANCED" for 16x9 TVs. It doesn't mean it's gonna fill your screen. 1.85:1 movies may fill your screen, depending on the amount of overscan. 2.35:1 movies won't fill your screen. Why? Because it's WIDER!! Therefore it has to be shrunk down to fit the width of the screen perfectly. Black bars at the top and bottom are normal to preserve the original aspect ratio of the movie. Widescreen aspect ratios range from 1.66:1 all the way up to 2.76:1 (Ben Hur). The wider the movie, the bigger the black bars. Widescreen TVs are mainly meant for HDTV viewing. But they sure make watching movies a lot better too because the black bars are either gone for the 1.85:1 movies, or a lot smaller for the 2.35:1 movies.

    Yeah, I hear this a lot in those threads. "Why can't they just film at one aspect ratio and stick to it?" Directors and filmmakers film mainly for the theater and don't give a rip about the TV's aspect ratio. Plus, 2.35:1 movies mainly use an anamorphic lense to compress more of the picture onto a 1.37:1 frame. This method also increases the quality and makes it look better than hard matting, soft matting, and Super 35. 1.85:1 movies are either hard matted, soft matted, or filmed in Super 35. 2.35:1 movies are either shot in anamorphic, or filmed in Super 35. Now, if the movie is Super 35 and has an aspect ratio of 2.35:1, some directors choose to open up the mattes a little bit to fill more of the screen like they did in Austin Powers International Man of Mystery and The Recruit. I really have no problem with this time of reformatting as long as it's up to the director and it still looks good. Some Super 35 movies are opened up a little bit if the director decides that the 2.35:1 composition is way too tight. Other reasons why most Super 35 movies AREN'T opened up a little is because a lot of the movie was hard matted for the special effects. If some of the movie was opened matted a bit, then some other parts of the movie would have to be "pan and scanned". And that's not good.

    Directors choose different aspect ratios for different reasons. A lot of action movies are done in 2.35:1. A lot of the comedies are filmed in 1.85:1. Each aspect ratio is appropriate for different genres.

    So, if you pop a movie in on your widescreen TV and still get black bars. Look on the back on the DVD and see if it says 2.35:1. If it does, then you're ok. If you pop in a 1.85:1 movie and don't get black bars, you're still ok.

    2. Your center channel is fine where it is.



    Stew
     
  3. JamesCB

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    There is a thread titled: "*** Welcome to the HTF, Please read this first ***" at the top of each forum. Maybe you should read it.

    James
     
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    Specifically this post right here -

    Will I get rid of the black bars?

    Also, make sure your DVD player is set for 16:9 output, not 4:3. This is located in the player setup menu under something like "TV type". Note, the setup menu is sometimes only available when there is no disk in the player.

    Thirdly, you may want to look at the Primer entry for non-anamorphic DVD's. These are DVD's that are not enhanced for widescreen TV's and require a different zoom mode on widescreen tv's.
     
  5. JasonRabb

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    Thank you so much gang! I really love this forum. = ) I did set my DVD player to 16 X 9 and I didn't know there was so much detail to widescreen settings! I'll go through my DVDs and see which ones work properly.


    thanks!

    -Jason
     

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