I'm in the market for a new receiver and am looking to keep the price down as much as I can, while still making sure I have a warranty. I think I've narrowed it down to these: Denon AVR-2803 H/K AVR 325/525 Pioneer VSX-43/45TX (though it looks like finding the 45 is getting difficult) Yamaha RX-V1300 or the new RX-V1400[/list=1] I think these are all in the neighborhood of $800 MSRP, and ideally I'd like to spend $600 or less. I (sadly) missed out on OneCall's deals on the two H/Ks, but they do have refurbed 525s for around $550 if I recall. I'm going to use the receiver for music (almost all kinds) and DVDs mainly, probably a good bit of both. I tried to audition some of these at a Tweeter to narrow my list down, but their setup and selection left a little to be desired. I listened to the 2803, which sounded fairly neutral to me, after I helped the salesman identify that the center channel wasn't plugged in. Unfortunately, I couldn't listen to the RX-V1300, but the 2300 I got to hear sounded very detailed (I played the beginning of Gladiator through a 6.1 set of Mirage speakers). Tweeter didn't have the Pioneers set up as far as I could see. I haven't been able to find anyplace to demo the H/Ks either. I guess my decision is going to come down to which one I can get for the best price. I'm most interested in any opinions or help anyone could give me with finding an authorized online dealer for any of these receivers. I can't bring myself to pay MSRP just because the salesman won't work with me at all. If I can be sure I'm getting a good product and warranty, a refurbished model would be OK. I'd also entertain any alternatives if anyone has a compelling reason I should consider a different receiver. Whew, that was a long first post. Edit: To clarify, I can find the authorized dealers just fine. My problem is finding a price better than MSRP and determining if going refurbished is too risky.