Barabbas HELP !!!!!!!!! (2 Viewers)

[Ed Lachmann]

Anyone who wonders what all this fuss is about should revisit the DVD to the Imprint blu-ray comparison here:

Barabbas Blu-ray - Anthony Quinn

This is as good a barometer as to whether it's worth it or not for you as you're likely to find. Personally, I'm looking forward to Imprint's upcoming Derzu Uzala and Rose Tattoo blu-rays.

 

[Robin9]

Anyone who wonders what all this fuss is about should revisit the DVD to the Imprint blu-ray comparison here:

Barabbas Blu-ray - Anthony Quinn

This is as good a barometer as to whether it's worth it or not for you as you're likely to find. Personally, I'm looking forward to Imprint's upcoming Derzu Uzala and Rose Tattoo blu-rays.

If only I could trust DVD Beaver's screen caps. If only he would enable a fair comparison by making both images equal in size.

I'm deeply sceptical about screen caps in general, partly because I don't know how they were taken and partly because my computer monitor does not present images in the same way my projector does. I've found again and again that DVD Beaver's screen caps are not at all representative of what I see on my projector screen and consequently I now don't trust them at all.

I still might, just might, buy this Imprint Blu-ray disc despite its flaws because I love the film and those "extras" interest me.

 

[Noel Aguirre]

Julius Caesar looked amazing on TCM last weekend. I’d buy it in a heart beat.

 

[RichMurphy]

If only I could trust DVD Beaver's screen caps. If only he would enable a fair comparison by making both images equal in size.

My assumption was that DVD Beaver makes screen caps from similar formats in the same size. It would be fairly useless to enlarge a DVD capture to match a Blu-Ray capture in size, if you're trying to compare picture quality.

 

[willyTass]

Maybe it’s Imprint who should be Crucified

Barabbas Blu-ray (Imprint #132) (Australia)

Barabbas Blu-ray Release Date July 6, 2022 (Imprint #132). Blu-ray reviews, news, specs, ratings, screenshots. Cheap Blu-ray movies and deals.

www.blu-ray.com

 

[Robin9]

My assumption was that DVD Beaver makes screen caps from similar formats in the same size. It would be fairly useless to enlarge a DVD capture to match a Blu-Ray capture in size, if you're trying to compare picture quality.

I don't understand that. Why would it be useless to present equal-sized images?

 

[tenia]

It's not useless at all, on the contrary. The issue is that Gary never managed to properly take a screencap on DVD or BD (and I suppose UHD) that's adequately transparent to the source, leaving them slightly filtered and with incorrect RGB values. I remember discussions about this dqting back from Eureka's Nosferatu DVD but then, the Dr Strangelove Criterion BD caps also were incorrect.

 

[OliverK]

I don't understand that. Why would it be useless to present equal-sized images?

Indeed, maybe caps-a-holic will also add the imprint disc in the future as they do have a comparison to the DVD and the Sidonis Blu-ray already:

Barabbas • FR Blu-ray vs. UK DVD

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Looking at these caps is really painful and the Imprint may add a bit of texture but otherwise will be from the same master - depressing.

 

[haineshisway]

I simply will never understand how anyone can defend anything about a transfer like this.

 

[OliverK]

Maybe it’s Imprint who should be Crucified

Barabbas Blu-ray (Imprint #132) (Australia)

Barabbas Blu-ray Release Date July 6, 2022 (Imprint #132). Blu-ray reviews, news, specs, ratings, screenshots. Cheap Blu-ray movies and deals.

www.blu-ray.com

Those caps look rough indeed. If there ever is a decent Blu-ray release it will make for a stunning before and after!

 

[RichMurphy]

I don't understand that. Why would it be useless to present equal-sized images?

All other factors being equal, wouldn't a DVD screencap look worse if enlarged the same size as a Blu-Ray screencap, due to its lower resolution?

 

[willyTass]

I’d be embarrassed to release titles like this and call it Blu ray.

although, compared to Imprint’s The Conterfeit Traitor, Barabbas is a revelation.

Imprint should change their name to Swindler Studios, Gall Films or Hustle Arcade.

 

[OliverK]

All other factors being equal, wouldn't a DVD screencap look worse if enlarged the same size as a Blu-Ray screencap, due to its lower resolution?

It would look worse if blown up to larger size or rather resolution but when you watch the DVD on your TV or projector it would be the same and both the DVD and the Blu-ray would be blown up to the same (probably 4k) resolution of the TV and therefore to the same size.

 

[Robin9]

All other factors being equal, wouldn't a DVD screencap look worse if enlarged the same size as a Blu-Ray screencap, due to its lower resolution?

Yes, of course, and that's why screen caps should be the same size. The purpose of a comparison is to see the difference and form an opinion. Anything that reduces the difference is bad.

 

[Ed Lachmann]

I own the Sidonis Barabbas and it looks pretty sub-standard in comparison to the Imprint. There's no "HELP" coming for Barabbas so love it or leave it, I guess, it simply ain't getting any better that this.

 

[uncledougie]

IMDb indicates this was a Super Technirama 70 production; not clear if it was filmed in 70mm or it was converted in certain prints to that, but in either case the Technirama process should’ve produced excellent results. I went ahead and purchased this release but haven’t watched it yet. The old DVD picture quality I recall didn’t impress. I guess this is as good as it’s going to get for this title.

 

[richardburton84]

IMDb indicates this was a Super Technirama 70 production; not clear if it was filmed in 70mm or it was converted in certain prints to that, but in either case the Technirama process should’ve produced excellent results. I went ahead and purchased this release but haven’t watched it yet. The old DVD picture quality I recall didn’t impress. I guess this is as good as it’s going to get for this title.

I think how it worked out was the film was shot in 8-perf 35mm Technirama, and then printed to 70mm. And yes, this new edition of the film is a far cry from how it should look.

 

[OliverK]

IMDb indicates this was a Super Technirama 70 production; not clear if it was filmed in 70mm or it was converted in certain prints to that, but in either case the Technirama process should’ve produced excellent results. I went ahead and purchased this release but haven’t watched it yet. The old DVD picture quality I recall didn’t impress. I guess this is as good as it’s going to get for this title.

I would bet that it will eventually be released in better quality but who knows when.
Life's too short for many of us to sit around waiting all the time so I can understand people who are tired of it buying the Imprint release.

 

[Ed Lachmann]

I'd like to hope that it would be re-released with some improvement but I've absolutely NO faith in that at all. Nobody else will touch titles like Barabbas, Damn the Defiant, The Naked Jungle, Secret of the Incas, The Carpetbaggers, Derzu Uzala or The Rose Tattoo for some reason except Imprint. To demean them seems disingenuous and vindictive. Still, WB released a REAL piece of crap PQ nightmare with Giant and now they "revisit" it. Can't wait to suffer the hand wringing when the Imprint Derzu Uzala comes out. Sadly, those of us who saw it on the screen all those years ago in various theaters remember that it just never looked that great. The movie, on the other hand, is a classic. Maybe you've guessed that I'm an Imprint fan.

 

[Robert Crawford]

I'd like to hope that it would be re-released with some improvement but I've absolutely NO faith in that at all. Nobody else will touch titles like Barabbas, Damn the Defiant, The Naked Jungle, Secret of the Incas, The Carpetbaggers, Derzu Uzala or The Rose Tattoo for some reason except Imprint. To demean them seems disingenuous and vindictive. Still, WB released a REAL piece of crap PQ nightmare with Giant and now they "revisit" it. Can't wait to suffer the hand wringing when the Imprint Derzu Uzala comes out. Sadly, those of us who saw it on the screen all those years ago in various theaters remember that it just never looked that great. The movie, on the other hand, is a classic. Maybe you've guessed that I'm an Imprint fan.

I’m not so sure about that as I think a couple of those titles might be coming from Kino.