b**** & moan time: Total Film Top 100 films

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  1. Adam_S

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    I know everyone is going to hate this list, I actually like it because it's an utterly bizarre mix of the high and low, pop culture, cult culture, film culture and art culture. Possibly the most astonishing list I've seen.

    But I imagine everyone else is just going to see red.

    1 GoodFellas
    2 Vertigo
    3 Jaws
    4 Fight Club
    5 The Godfather Part II
    6 Citizen Kane
    7 Tokyo Story
    8 The Empire Strikes Back
    9 The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy
    10 His Girl Friday
    11 Persona
    12 Chinatown
    13 Manhattan
    14 Taxi Driver
    15 It's A Wonderful Life
    16 The Apartment
    17 Once Upon A Time In The West
    18 All About Eve
    19 The Texas Chain Saw Massacre
    20 Apocalypse Now
    21 Crash (1996)
    22 Sunrise
    23 The Godfather
    24 Rear Window
    25 Sunset Boulevard
    26 The Third Man
    27 Some Like It Hot
    28 Raging Bull
    29 La Regle Du Jeu
    30 Reservoir Dogs
    31 Pat Garrett And Billy The Kid
    32 Les Enfants Du Paradis
    33 Star Wars
    34 The Searchers
    35 A Matter Of Life And Death
    36 2001: A Space Odyssey
    37 Touch Of Evil
    38 Badlands
    39 Monty Python And The Holy Grail
    40 ET: The Extra-Terrestrial
    41 The Last Picture Show
    42 One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
    43 Heat
    44 Annie Hall
    45 Mean Streets
    46 Nashville
    47 Blade Runner
    48 Singin' In The Rain
    49 Pulp Fiction
    50 It Happened One Night
    51 Aliens
    52 Sullivan's Travels
    53 The Deer Hunter
    54 Miller's Crossing
    55 Kiss Me Deadly
    56 The Shawshank Redemption
    57 Sweet Smell Of Success
    58 Die Hard
    59 Blue Velvet
    60 The Outlaw Josey Wales
    61 Halloween
    62 The Night Of The Hunter
    63 The Matrix
    64 The Conversation
    65 8 1/2
    66 Se7en
    67 L'Atalante
    68 This Is Spinal Tap
    69 Sideways
    70 Dawn Of The Dead
    71 North By Northwest
    72 The Terminator
    73 Hoop Dreams
    74 Raiders Of The Lost Ark
    75 The Wild Bunch
    76 Close Encounters Of The Third Kind
    77 Lawrence Of Arabia
    78 The Graduate
    79 The Wicker Man
    80 Day For Night
    81 The Shining
    82 Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
    83 The Wizard Of Oz
    84 Metropolis
    85 The King Of Comedy
    86 Kind Hearts And Coronets
    87 Donnie Darko
    88 Get Carter
    89 Rio Bravo
    90 Psycho
    91 Dekalog
    92 Back To The Future
    93 Salvador
    94 Magnolia
    95 The Usual Suspects
    96 Stand By Me
    97 Trainspotting
    98 Casablanca
    99 Three Kings
    100 Goldfinger


    I've seen 84 of these. I think there're two hidiously low rankings and there are three films I'd throw off completely but other than that a very interesting and unique list.
     
  2. andrew markworthy

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    I read about this list the other day and decided at that point that from now on the only list I will pay attention to is the Sight and Sound list.
     
  3. george kaplan

    george kaplan Executive Producer

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    That list has (IMO):

    36 great films
    9 so-so films
    46 crappy films
    9 films I haven't seen

    Despite the obivous limitations of this list, it still has far less flaws than the Sight & Sound list which is filled with worse films than anything on this list.
     
  4. Eric Peterson

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    Overall, that's actually a pretty decent list. I've seen 77 of the films, and most of the remaining 23 are high on my "To See" list.

    The top 10 is pretty bad, but I have to give huge props for the high placement of "The Aparment" & "One Upon a Time in the West" as well as the inclusion of "Eternal Sunshine..." which is the best movie of the past five years (IMHO) and "Magnolia" which is also one my very favorite newer films.

    They also included "Touch of Evil" & "Night of the Hunter" which were two glaring omissions from the AFI 100.
     
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    [​IMG] George, you're a brave man. [​IMG]

    I own 76 of those films. Goodfellas is a great film, a top 20 entry for sure, but no.1? Naah. It is annoying that films like Casablanca, Lawrence of Arabia and 2001 aren't in the top 10, or even in the top 20. The list seems almost random, so, the best comedy ever is His Girl Friday? I can think of dozens funnier and better. Fight Club? Above so many genuine greats? What was the average age of the pollers? 15? Poll-ocks I say. [​IMG]
     
  6. Kevin M

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    I agree, many of the films on the list are actually pretty decent....certainly runs the gamut of my disjointed tastes in movies. As far as the listings...feh.
     
  7. WillG

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    Well, in any top 100 films list, of course you are going to get a lot of good films in there. But I agree, this list does seem to be a bit askew.

    For example: I know it's often debated which is better, "The Godfather" or the "The Godfather Part II" but putting part II at number 5 and part I at 23 seems to be pretty odd (Personally, I lean toward Part I as my favorite of the two)

    Also, since they seem to count "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy as one entry, why not the same with the orginal Star Wars trilogy? I know many people do not like ROTJ as much as ANH or TESB, but would it really hurt just throw them all together for inclusion based on TLOTR trilogy being done that way?

    I could go on I guess, but I'm sure we'll get more opinion from others
     
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    And I thought those FilmForce lists were silly... Any information on how this list was compiled? Just the people in the office? And there was one guy in the office who likes classic foreign films?
     
  9. SteveGon

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    Overall a solid list, but the rankings leave something to be desired. GoodFellas at number one? It's a good film, but one I find outrageously overrated. And Fight Club? Meh.

    FWIW, I've seen 'em all with the exception of Hoop Dreams which I started but didn't finish (couldn't get into it at the time) and A Matter of Life and Death (which I only vaguely remember).
     
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    A lot of this list is eerily similar to my own top 100 list. GoodFellas is #4 on my list, but Brazil is my all time #1 and doesn't even make this list.

    Also, David Cronenberg is one of my absolute favorite directors but the only one of his films that made the list is Crash (1996)! No, The Fly (1986), Videodrome, or Dead Ringers? Strange.

    I like Godfather II better than I, but I have them at #2 and #12 respectively. And Reservoir Dogs way higher than Pulp Fiction is an intersting choice too.

    Overall I dig the list though.
     
  11. george kaplan

    george kaplan Executive Producer

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    9 of my top 10 are on this list (my #9 Dr. Strangelove is a horrible omission), but those others rank between 6 & 98 on this list. Again, I could live with all of that, if it wasn't for how horrible many of the replacements are.
     
  12. andrew markworthy

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    Okay - name them.
     
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    This is probably one of the best, most well rounded lists I've come across, featuring movies I own or would like to own.



    I have to agree with you on "Eternal Sunshine", I think it ranks as one of the deffinative films of this decade. I can never really take the actual ranking of these lists too seriously, as personal bias ultimately comes into play, but as a 100 films, worth watching, it's pretty great.

    My only complaint is "Dancer In The Dark" isn't listed. "Goodfellas" is kind of strange as a number one film, but it still belongs on the list.
     
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    I think it's a great list overall, yeah there are a handful of questionable choices regarding inclusion/omission, but I think it's much more realistic than the pretentious trash AFI spews out every year.
     
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    There's a lot of great films there but it seems someone fell in love with the 70's, which is fine in my book since it's my favorite decade of films. I'm somewhat shocked at the horror films they selected yet they left off FRANKENSTEIN and THE BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN.

    However, I'm going to pay very little attention to this list due to the "newer" films. I think a film should at least be 10-15 years old before it gets labeled a "classic". Standing the test of time is the key to a classic so these newer films shouldn't be on there.
     
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    I agree completely. Every once in a while a film will strike me, but I always say to myself - "Wait and see what you think in 5-10 years", and that should be the minimum requirement before being compared against films that are 30+ years old.
     
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    That's fine... and irrelevant: The word "classic" did not appear anywhere in the original post.

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  18. george kaplan

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    Why? You know you aren't going to agree.

    Here's just a few off the top of my head, that IMO, and ACNOIOSYTSHOTSASL (almost certainly not in your opinion since you think so highly of the sight & sound list), are some films far worse than anything on this total film list:

    Performance
    The Birth of a Nation
    Written on the Wind
    The Piano
    Cries & Whispers
    Don't Look Now

    Yecch.
     
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    It might help if before you criticise something, you actually read it to refresh your memory. And by the way, old chap, as you clearly pride yourself on accuracy, it should be 'far fewer flaws'.

    Have a nice day. [​IMG]
     
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