B&K Reference 50 setup help needed!!

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  1. Logan G

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    I picked up a Ref 50 about 2 weeks ago. Still getting comfortable with how it works. One thing I don't get is the "Room Equalization" menu. Would one of you Ref 50 owners walk me through the process of how to equalize a room.

    Thanks in advance for the help
     
  2. Logan G

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    I know there a a lot of you who own the Ref 50! I could really use some help.....
     
  3. Jerry Klawiter

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    Logan,
    Do you have a SPL meter?
    If not, first get one.
    Then PM me.
    Jerry
     
  4. Michael Mohrmann

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    Jerry,

     
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    I would also appreciate learning about this feature. Although I do not see a Ref 50 in my future, it is always helpful to learn about different types of equipment. I read various A/V related mags for the same reason.
     
  6. Jerry Klawiter

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  7. Logan G

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    Jerry, you got PM
     
  8. Michael Mohrmann

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    Logan,

    If you are fortunate enough to learn how to utilize the room equalization feature of the Ref50, would you mind posting here about what you have been taught? Thanks. [​IMG]

    Michael
     
  9. Bryce Miner

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    a basic overview is you measure with a spl meter frequencies to see where your spikes or peaks are in your room. Then you select that frequency and decrease the db by half of the measured over level. This puts a notch in the bass, and you get a smoother more accurate response. There is also some cool EQ settings for the high and low end as well, where you can also pick a frequency and it will boost that above or below that frequency.

    Great Features, Great Product.
     
  10. Michael Mohrmann

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    Bryce,

     
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    Anywhere! It is so flexible with any type of room. But I'm not sure why you would want to use it other than in the lower frequencies...
     
  12. Michael Mohrmann

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    Bryce,

     
  13. Jerry Klawiter

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    20Hz-300Hz

    I am not a very technical person when it comes to putting things into typed words.
    I would recommend as I have done many times for all just to download the B&K software suite from B&K software
    The software is a very clean install and it will uninstall just as cleanly after you play with it. This software works very well with Windows 98, 2000, XP.

    Install it.
    Then start the application.
    The first window that comes up will be Connection type
    Just pick Local COMM not the network.
    Select Apply.
    The software will search Comm ports for a B&K supported product, If you have no B&K products that's fine.
    The software will say No Device found.
    Use the Select Product for operation without a connected device. Then click OK
    "THIS IS AN EMULATION MODE, YOU NEED NOT HAVE A B&K PRODUCT"
    Now a scroll down is made available.
    You can select any of these B&K products.
    AVR 101 Receiver
    AVR 305 Receiver
    AVR 307 Receiver
    AVR 505 Receiver
    AVR 507 Receiver
    AVR 202 Receiver
    AVR 202+ Receiver
    AVR 202i Receiver
    CT 310 Receiver
    CT 610 Receiver
    PT-3 Pre Amp
    PT-5 Pre Amp
    Ref 10
    Ref 20
    Ref 20+
    Ref 30
    Ref 50
    Select the product you would like to check out.
    I have the Ref 50 and use that.
    Then click OK.
    Now a new window appears, Just left of the user guide icon select Run system editor.
    Now I have found it best to maximize your window.
    If you do not do this it maybe difficult to see the three buttons in the lower left of the screen.
    These are "System" "Preset" "Favorites"
    Select system.
    Now you have a window with 12 tabs in front of you.
    The #4 tab is Room Setup.
    Take a look around at all the available settings and flexibility with in the software and the B& K product.
    The software is very easy to understand, Even if you have a B&K product but never used the software & cable, This software helps you understand all the available flexibilities within the product without the many layers of confusion trying to understand the on-screen single page menus controlled with the remote.
    I have suggested for people download this in the past,
    Use it to compare features with what you own or just to learn and check out B&K.
    It will cost you $ZERO to see what you maybe missing. [​IMG]
    As you can see you can setup all your default inputs anyway
    you like, any speaker config,dsp, so on, and not have to even use a single preset.
    The presets are for the special saved personal settings.
     
  14. Jerry Klawiter

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    On that Tap #4 Room Setup you will also find the B&K test tone generator.
    This goes from 20Hz-300Hz in 2 HZ increments!
    I have found it to be very accurate and useful over those homemade sweep disc's and such.
    This will let you stay at any given frequency indefinitely.
    Very nice to work at those trouble areas.
    Also you have choice of output db levels.
    Play with it and have some fun!
    If you use a Radio Shack SPL meter you may want to do the modification or search for the frequency adjustment chart.
    This SPL meter has been found to be off a bit.
     
  15. Logan G

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    I would like to thank Jerry for all his help. He called me last night and he spent about 30 minutes on the phone explaining how to equalize my room. I was not even aware of the B&K Software suite. Once I get a cable made I plan on sitting down and trying to "tame" my room. Jerry, I will post here again if I have any questions or issues since a number of members seem interested in this process.[​IMG]
     
  16. Ralph P.

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    Greetings,

    You said that you were not aware of the B&K software suite? Didn't the software CD come with your Ref.50 along with an RJ-45 to DB9 ( serial port ) adapter?

    The RJ-45 to DB9 adapter should have come with your Ref. 50. Go to Radioshack and purchase an RJ-45 network cable in the length you need. The adaptor will fit on the end which will go into your PC's serial port.

    If the adapter did not come with your Ref. 50 Radio shack has the necessary parts and it is simple.

    Once you familarize yourself with the Ref. 50 you will find it a breeze to operate. The Software even came with setups and codes for my Pronto TSU2000.

    I have found this unit to be very customizable, and a stellar performer.
     

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