B&K Ref 30??

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  1. Carl Gaff

    Carl Gaff Second Unit

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    Okay B&K owners, I need your help. I am currently using a Sherwood Newcastle 9080R as my home theater preamp. I have a chance to purchase a B&K Ref preamp that was a demo for a short period of time for $850-$950. I have checked and can get the Ref 30 upgraded to all current surround modes through B&K for $498, making my cash out-put somewhere between $1348 and $1448. My dilemma is this:

    1. Is the Ref 30 worth the price I've been offered?

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    2. Should I bypass the Ref 30 and wait for the new Sherwood-Newcastle preamp to come out?

    Any CONSTRUCTIVE comments or advice will be greatly appriciated
     
  2. CurtisC

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    I'm not an owner but I have seen the ref 50 for about$1600.00,is it worth a few hun more,prolly.
     
  3. DavidK

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    Carl Gaff,
    The upgraded REF30 would indeed be a great product..but like CurtisC said, you should/could look around for a similar good price on a new/used REF50. Then based upon the dif in price, make your decison one way or the other.

    By the way, I recently had my B&K 305 upgraded to 315 and I had no major problems and I felt it was well worth it.

    Good luck...
     
  4. Carl Gaff

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    Thanks for the idea Curtis. David, do you happen to know what the main differences are between the Ref 50 and the Ref 30? Thanks.

    Carl
     
  5. Stephen M

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    No difference except for balanced outputs on the Ref 50 and THX Ultra processing, I think.
     
  6. Chris Copter

    Chris Copter Auditioning

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    I think that you also get upgraded dac's and also PLII and NEO 6, I don't think these were on the ref 30. It also has a notch filter on the 50, that may not be on the 30 either.
     
  7. DavidK

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    Carl,
    The two posts above pretty much cover the main differences...there might be a few more differeces. Just go to B&K site &/or call B&K and they should be able to provide you with all of the differences.
     
  8. Carl Gaff

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    Thanks to all for their advice and info
     
  9. Dan Driscoll

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    FYI, the Sherwood-Newcastle P-965 is now available. List is $1499, IIRC.
     
  10. Chris White

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    Just to clarify, here is what is included in the $499 upgrade of a Ref 30 to a Ref 31:
    • New Motorola (56367-DSP) processor
    • New 24/192 DACs
    • New formats: DPLII, THX Ultra2, DTS-ES, NEO:6
    • New system boards/cards
    • New blue display
    • New user's manual

    After the upgrade, the Ref 31 becomes essentially a Ref 50, except a Ref 50 has balanced outputs and an additional component input.
     
  11. ChadLB

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    I guess if you can get the Ref 50 for $1,500 used/new it would be a better buy than the $1,000 price tag on a used B&K30....am I correct?
     
  12. Chris White

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    Assuming they're in equivalent condition, yes, a used Ref 50 at $1500 would be better than a used Ref 30 ($1000) upgraded to a Ref 31 ($499) because you would have the balanced outputs and the additional component input. Plus, as a newer model, it will probably hold its market value better.
     
  13. anth_c

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    The other benefit of the Ref. 50 is the remote control. It is an OEM model of the hometheater master.
     

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