Avia or Video Essentials?

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  1. Marvin Richardson

    Marvin Richardson Supporting Actor

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    I'm planning on buying a new CRT RPTV soon, and wondered which was better for calibrating the set; Avia or Video Essentials?
    I already own Avia, so if the two are close I'd just use that.
     
  2. Jim Mcc

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    Marvin, when I asked this question at Avsforum.com it was pretty much a 50/50 split. I'd just go with what you've got.
     
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    I thought Avia was significantly more advanced than VE -- ?
     
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    Avia is more user friendly.
     
  5. Michael TLV

    Michael TLV THX Video Instructor/Calibrator

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    Greetings

    And you can't buy Video Essentials anymore anyway.

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    Yes there was an older VE.

    I also find Avia more user friendly, it's the disc I use most of the time, I can't stand navigating DVE. It's easier to navigate with the little booklet and going directly to the part you want, but if I'm sitting in my darkened theater, that's annoying to be fumbling with a flashlight, etc.
     
  8. Michael TLV

    Michael TLV THX Video Instructor/Calibrator

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    It's funny. Some would make the same complaint about AVIA compared to DVE ...

    Although both have plenty of decriptions for beginners and once you know where the good stuff is, you can direct access it through a title and chapter search.

    AVIA is sometimes problematic because it does not always stay on the same test pattern you choose ... (unless you specifically tell it to on the first menu)

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    I've not had AVIA. One of these days, maybe, but not this week.

    I've had AVS (laserdisc,) VE, and DVE.

    I prefer the navigation (or lack thereof) of VE over DVE; someone produced a 2-leaf (8 page) book that could be folded down to fit inside the cover of VE that would navigate you where-ever you needed to go, and I still find it superior (in its clumsy way) to the navigation book of DVE.

    And the image montage in VE seems a great deal more... holistic than the ones in DVE. More interesting, too - what were they thinking when they did the second one in DVE?!!? It's terrible!

    That said, there are one or two test patterns on DVE that are nice that weren't on VE. (Surprisingly, some of them were on AVS..)

    Leo Kerr
     
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    Michael:

    Avia Pro will stay on the patterns forever, and it also provides the benefit of being able to test for BTB and peak whites, as Avia is limited to 16-235. If users need to test their video chain for this (which you should!) you should use DVE for this particular test as it has patterns with material 235. This is the only reason I find DVE useful.
     
  11. Michael TLV

    Michael TLV THX Video Instructor/Calibrator

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    Ah yes ... AVIA Pro ... all $300 of it. (Discounted)

    Of course DVE is meant for enthusiasts and beginners ... as it does not have nearly as many patterns as AVIA ... but then a beginner would never use those other extended patterns.

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    Yes, I recognize this, the Avia Pro recomendation was more directed to you or other pros/calibrators. It is by far the best suite of comprehensive and useful patterns, obviously directed more at extreme enthusiasts and pros.
     
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    I've been using AVIA for about 4 years now and i'd be lost without it! In my entire dvd collection of around 360 or so, this is the most valuable one to me.

    I'm so used to using it and know the menus so well, I can navigate easily in the dark without even looking at the remote! Just remember to turn 'Repeat test pattern' to ON to ensure your not interrupted during a calibration session.
     

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