Jaxon's Dad
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The Database problems that Parker talked about affected the thread I had started and it was deleted, so I'm reposting my initial post and the reply as well as my reply to the first reply. Anyone with anything to add, please do so.
Originally posted 06-17-03
I helped a buddy calibrate his new Panasonic PT-42PHD4-P Plasma TV using Avia. We adjusted the black level to the recommended specs, but when it came time to adjust the contrast and sharpness, it appeared that the default settings were sufficient. This also was the case with the color and tint settings. Figuring that the defaults would be fine since this is a plasma screen and not a CRT set, we closed out Avia and then demoed various selections from several different DVDs, finally ending with a screening of Monsters, Inc. During the screening, I noticed a few times the image seemed to flicker. This was particularly noticeable on the upper right frame of Roz's glasses, and there was one other time that the background behind Sully shimmered. I've read several reviews of this disc and the only complaint from any reviewer is that the image seems to be too soft. Nowhere does anyone mention this shimmering. So it makes me think that we may have missed something in the calibration. Could the contrast and sharpness be the cause of the image problem? Other non-Pixar discs appear to have a great image, but if tweaking will improve Monsters, Inc. then I can only imagine what other dvds will look like.
Thanx in advance.
D
Reply from Rick H on 06-17-03
Doug,
I'm not perfectly sure what you mean by "shimmering." I tend to use that term to describe the twinkling, pixelated look of a scaler when it is struggling with source material (as can be the case with some plasmas). Or are you seeing de-interlacing break-up of straight lines?
I have the same plasma. Using a Panasonic RP-91 DVD player, progressive scan output, I see no shimmering to speak of in my display. Are you sending the plasma a progressive scan output from the DVD player?
When I feed my plasma an interlaced signal (so the plasma has to do the de-interlacing instead of the DVD player), then I do occasionally see some de-interlacing artifacts that might be described as shimmering of fine details.
Yes sharpness can exacerbate any artifacting, such as shimmering. But I doubt it's a problem in this case.
(Personally, I think you can get an even better image out of this plasma from another method other than AVIA...but perhaps that's a topic for another time... )
Reply to Rick H on 06-18-03
Rich,
The phenomenon is more akin to twinkling and not de-interlacing break-up. I double checked with my friend and he's got a Philips DVD793C. Progressive scan is on and 3:2 pulldown is enabled. In fact he's got 3:2 pulldown enabled on both the plasma screen and the dvd player. He wasn't sure which to choose, so he played it safe. Should he pick one or the other instead of having both enabled?
Can you comment on his Digital Audio Out settings? His choices are:
1.Dolby Digital/PCM or Stream/PCM or PCM (He has Dolby Digitial/PCM selected); and
2.Sample Freq: 48 KHz or 96 KHz (he has 48 KHz selected).
By all means enlighten me on this "other method." I don't mind hijacking my own thread (See above... ), but feel free to start another or just email me or send me a pm.
Regards,
D
Originally posted 06-17-03
I helped a buddy calibrate his new Panasonic PT-42PHD4-P Plasma TV using Avia. We adjusted the black level to the recommended specs, but when it came time to adjust the contrast and sharpness, it appeared that the default settings were sufficient. This also was the case with the color and tint settings. Figuring that the defaults would be fine since this is a plasma screen and not a CRT set, we closed out Avia and then demoed various selections from several different DVDs, finally ending with a screening of Monsters, Inc. During the screening, I noticed a few times the image seemed to flicker. This was particularly noticeable on the upper right frame of Roz's glasses, and there was one other time that the background behind Sully shimmered. I've read several reviews of this disc and the only complaint from any reviewer is that the image seems to be too soft. Nowhere does anyone mention this shimmering. So it makes me think that we may have missed something in the calibration. Could the contrast and sharpness be the cause of the image problem? Other non-Pixar discs appear to have a great image, but if tweaking will improve Monsters, Inc. then I can only imagine what other dvds will look like.
Thanx in advance.
D
Reply from Rick H on 06-17-03
Doug,
I'm not perfectly sure what you mean by "shimmering." I tend to use that term to describe the twinkling, pixelated look of a scaler when it is struggling with source material (as can be the case with some plasmas). Or are you seeing de-interlacing break-up of straight lines?
I have the same plasma. Using a Panasonic RP-91 DVD player, progressive scan output, I see no shimmering to speak of in my display. Are you sending the plasma a progressive scan output from the DVD player?
When I feed my plasma an interlaced signal (so the plasma has to do the de-interlacing instead of the DVD player), then I do occasionally see some de-interlacing artifacts that might be described as shimmering of fine details.
Yes sharpness can exacerbate any artifacting, such as shimmering. But I doubt it's a problem in this case.
(Personally, I think you can get an even better image out of this plasma from another method other than AVIA...but perhaps that's a topic for another time... )
Reply to Rick H on 06-18-03
Rich,
The phenomenon is more akin to twinkling and not de-interlacing break-up. I double checked with my friend and he's got a Philips DVD793C. Progressive scan is on and 3:2 pulldown is enabled. In fact he's got 3:2 pulldown enabled on both the plasma screen and the dvd player. He wasn't sure which to choose, so he played it safe. Should he pick one or the other instead of having both enabled?
Can you comment on his Digital Audio Out settings? His choices are:
1.Dolby Digital/PCM or Stream/PCM or PCM (He has Dolby Digitial/PCM selected); and
2.Sample Freq: 48 KHz or 96 KHz (he has 48 KHz selected).
By all means enlighten me on this "other method." I don't mind hijacking my own thread (See above... ), but feel free to start another or just email me or send me a pm.
Regards,
D