- Dec 21, 2002
- Real Name
- Jake Lipson
I would, again, like to apologize for that. I worded it that way intending to refer to the ending for the character, as in Spider-Man's ending or Black Widow's ending or Thanos's ending or fill-in-the-blank-with-any-name's ending. Each character has a beginning point and an ending point in the story, regardless of what the content of that endpoint is. (Ex: Pepper's ending would be that she's yelling at Tony to get back to her, because she doesn't feature in the story at all after that point.)My issue with what you posted over there about Spider-Man was mostly the way you worded it.
So, I worded it in that way such as to not say anything about the content of the ending at all, or at least that was the logic in my head when I wrote it. In retrospect, I can see how it may have come off in another way, but that could not have been further from my intention. I wrote it that way trying to make my point while avoiding the spoiler and would never intentionally put a genuine spoiler unmarked in a thread like that. But if you hadn't seen the movie yet, I understand now how it could read as though I had done so. By the time anyone raised an issue about it, my editing window had already closed so I couldn't change the wording.
I also think it was a natural extension of the conversation going on in the thread at the time about Marvel and Sony's relationship. However, I will agree that in hindsight it was better placed here, which is why I brought it up here in the post that you quoted.
I think this is more about Gamora representing his emotional side. In a way, she is "in charge of" his emotions because she is one of the only things that he gets emotional about -- which is, of course, why she was the one who needed to die for him to get the soul stone.I was thinking the same thing about Gamora being “in charge”
I don't think I would categorize all of his MCU appearances as cameos (he got quite a lot to do in The Winter Soldier especially), but it definitely is more of a showy supporting role. I'm not really even sure what a Nick Fury-fronted movie would be like. Since his secrets have secrets and must maintain a certain mystique, and we have to get to know our protagonists extremely well, he does seem to fit better in the supporting lane. It was also maybe a nice callback to Iron Man ten years ago where he only appeared in the post-credits tag. Or maybe that's just a coincidence.his character has never been a main character in any of the movies and has essentially made only cameo appearances. Then he gets another cameo and is immediately erased from the whole Marvel Universe.
I didn't recognize the logo either because I don't read comics, but assumed it was going to her because we already know that Samuel L. Jackson will be appearing in her movie. Which makes me wonder if the Russos shot this or whether it was don on the set of Captain Marvel by that film's directors. I know James Gunn shot the scene that is the tag on Thor: The Dark World as part of filming Guardians of the Galaxy. Although, Captain Marvel only started filming recently, so it was probably the Russos.I didn’t realize right away that the s.o.s. Was going to Captain Marvel.
If an actor appears only in the tag like that, for a tiny cameo, I wonder whether or not it counts on their deal with Marvel for X number of films as one of their contractual obligations, or not, due to the brevity of it.
Another question: Captain Marvel takes place in the '90s, which predates anything seen in the MCU so far except for the '80s opening sequences to the two Guardians films. If Nick Fury knows about her, and she has existed since the '90s, how come he's only paging her now? There will need to be a logical explanation in-universe for why she didn't help out with any of the other times that the world was in danger.
The answer is that Marvel has been busy establishing other properties and hasn't gotten to her until now, but that acknowledges that these are films and that Marvel has such a thing as a production schedule.
Within the world of the story, in which they are in real life and they don't know they're in movies, this will need to be addressed and explained. Because, you know, he could've paged her when Loki tried to take over Earth. Or any number of other times over the past decade's worth of films. But he didn't. The need now is obviously dire, but it was also dire earlier, so why only call her now? Is the pager a phone-a-friend lifeline that you use up after one call? (I'm kidding here, but even if it were one-and-done, he had no way of knowing that each prior threat wasn't worth using it for.) And what has she been doing instead as a character all this time?