Avengers: Infinity War (2018) (1 Viewer)

[Nigel P]

Pleased about that. I thought Age of Ultron could have done with being a bit longer and this is much bigger than that.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

Pleased about that. I thought Age of Ultron could have done with being a bit longer and this is much bigger than that.

My problem with the Age Of Ultron length comes from a quote that I read from Whedon, where he says it was a major goal to make a film shorter than the first Avengers, and was thriller that it came in one minute under. I don't think running time should ever be a goal. It should take as long as it's supposed to take, whether that's 90 minutes or 180 minutes.

I was similarly annoyed when David Yates was hired to direct Harry Potter 5 and said all the other films were too long and his biggest goal was to make the shortest Harry Potter movie ever. That movie feels hacked the bone, as if running time were the only consideration.

 

[Nigel P]

I agree completely Josh. It felt to me like it needed more time to breathe and then the Whedon quote came out and I just thought why.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

I get that sometimes for technical reasons a running time can be a limiting factor - for instance, if you're preparing for an IMAX 15/70 release, those film platters can hold a maximum of 165 minutes. But Christopher Nolan is the only filmmaker who both regularly works in that format and has films projected in that format, so it's not a concern that the majority of working filmmakers will ever face.

 

[Sean Bryan]

Here is the interview with Joe Russo from the quote above. He goes into a bit more here.

 

[Sean Bryan]

MTV trying to get a nugget from Feige and Russo about deaths.

Feige is more evasive and diplomatic, and Russo seems to imply that there may be some finality to certain characters/stories.

 

[Nigel P]

Joe Russo confirms Captain Marvel is not in Infinity War.

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/07/25/captain-marvel-is-not-in-avengers-infinity-war/

 

[Sam Favate]

"Beginning the end."

Avengers 4 has started filming. It also sounds like we won't be getting a title for A4 until at least after Infinity War opens. Something about a spoiler.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/08/11/ave...l&xid=socialflow_facebook_entertainmentweekly

 

[TJPC]

I am all for shorter movies. I don't think I have been to one in the last 10 years at least that wasn't too long. We often discuss afterwards what should have been cut.

For Avenger's/Super Hero movies this includes battle scenes that just go on far too long and now are ultra repetitive. How about scenes where characters are seen walking into the distance or gazing at each other for minutes at a time?

We see movies in the theatre, but buy all 3D/action movies on Blu ray. I find I am using the FF button more and more often now.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

Avengers 4 has started filming. It also sounds like we won't be getting a title for A4 until at least after Infinity War opens. Something about a spoiler.

So basically, Infinity War probably ends with really bad things happening, and then Avengers 4 will probably be "let's fix all the bad stuff that happened last time"

 

[Sean Bryan]

Gamora, Nebula, Ant-Man & The Wasp on the set of Avengers 4 in support of Harvey relief donations.

Edit: This may not technically be from the "A4 set" and more likely from a general location at the studio where both A4 and Ant-Man & The Wasp are filming, since both movies are being shot at the same time and this group includes Joe Russo and Peyton Reed.

 

[Sean Bryan]

Vanity Fair has a nice article about Marvel Studios’ 10th anniversary including an interview with Kevin Feige about the MCU’s past and future.

Definitely worth a read.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/marvel-cover-story?mbid=social_twitter

 

[Jonathan Perregaux]

The studio has the rights to 7,000 characters. If my calculations are correct, if they made just one movie about each character, then we'd have (rounding off to the nearest seven thousand) approximately 7,000 total movies in the MCU.

Given that a simple Blu-ray package weighs 5 oz. (142 g), then it follows that a complete collection of Marvel movies would weigh as much as 4-1/2 elephants. That's including the shrink-wrap, slipcase and security stickers, of course.

 

[Jake Lipson]

I feel like the title for Avengers 4 being a spoiler for Infinity War is sort of a questionable decision. What happens after the theatrical release when these films are sold in a box set? People who aren't around for the theatrical release of Infinity War will have to have it spoiled by the very title for the next film? That doesn't seem like they're making a long-term plan there, just that they want to have the movie seen by as many people as possible as quickly as possible and then move onto the next, like an assembly line thing. Really, there isn't any other title they could possibly use for Avengers 4 that isn't a spoiler for Infinity War?

Honestly, just calling it "Infinity War Part 2" would remove that obstacle...

 

[Greg_S_H]

The studio has the rights to 7,000 characters. If my calculations are correct, if they made just one movie about each character, then we'd have (rounding off to the nearest seven thousand) approximately 7,000 total movies in the MCU.

Given that a simple Blu-ray package weighs 5 oz. (142 g), then it follows that a complete collection of Marvel movies would weigh as much as 4-1/2 elephants. That's including the shrink-wrap, slipcase and security stickers, of course.

When is the Annual HTF Superhero Challenge? You have to watch all 7,000 in two months (fairer than just one). Rumor has it Travis is planning to binge them all in a row.

 

[Sean Bryan]

I feel like the title for Avengers 4 being a spoiler for Infinity War is sort of a questionable decision. What happens after the theatrical release when these films are sold in a box set? People who aren't around for the theatrical release of Infinity War will have to have it spoiled by the very title for the next film? That doesn't seem like they're making a long-term plan there, just that they want to have the movie seen by as many people as possible as quickly as possible and then move onto the next, like an assembly line thing. Really, there isn't any other title they could possibly use for Avengers 4 that isn't a spoiler for Infinity War?

Honestly, just calling it "Infinity War Part 2" would remove that obstacle...

Might be over thinking it. Just a tad.

 

[Jake Lipson]

How so?

The Marvel films are our modern blockbusters. They will be held up as era-defining blockbusters in the same way that the original Star Wars trilogy is for the '70s and '80s.

Yes, we all know that Darth Vader is Luke's father through pop culture osmosis. But the title of the third movie is "Return of the Jedi," not "Luke's Quest to Redeem His Father." So, the trilogy box set doesn't have to ruin that twist for future generations. If the Infinity War sequel title spoils the end of that film, then the spoiler will become widely known by simply knowing that the next film exists under that name. Yeah, they can do that, but it doesn't mean they should when they have other options available.

This is the same reason that Fox putting out a DVD of Planet of the Apes with the Statue of Liberty on the cover is stupid. Yes, the twist is famous, but if you've never seen the film before, there's no reason that the marketing should go out of its way to provide that information.

 

[Sean Bryan]

How so?

The Marvel films are our modern blockbusters. They will be held up as era-defining blockbusters in the same way that the original Star Wars trilogy is for the '70s and '80s.

Yes, we all know that Darth Vader is Luke's father through pop culture osmosis. But the title of the third movie is "Return of the Jedi," not "Luke's Quest to Redeem His Father." So, the trilogy box set doesn't have to ruin that twist for future generations. If the Infinity War sequel title spoils the end of that film, then the spoiler will become widely known by simply knowing that the next film exists under that name. Yeah, they can do that, but it doesn't mean they should when they have other options available.

This is the same reason that Fox putting out a DVD of Planet of the Apes with the Statue of Liberty on the cover is stupid. Yes, the twist is famous, but if you've never seen the film before, there's no reason that the marketing should go out of its way to provide that information.

Youre getting all hung up on some internet rumor/speculation that the title of Avengers 4 is some huge spoiler for Inifinity War.

First of all: That's Internet rumor/speculation

Second: You read "spoiler" and jump to "massive plot reveal". But that could be something much more simple. If they called it "The Thanos Imperative" or something like that it informs the audience that Thanos, the bad guy in this movie, isn't going to be defeated and will still be a threat in A4. But it doesn't really tell anything specific about the plot of either movie.

People who follow this stuff, like anyone on this or other movie discussion boards, already know Thanos is the threat in both A3 & A4. But the general audience, which makes up most of the audience doesn't follow this stuff and would have no clue what is going on with A4. Marvel probably hopes to keep who/what will be the threat for A4 a surprise for the general audience until they have seen A3.

Hell, the existence of any sequel in a box set kinda spoiles something about the first one, doesn't it? When I saw John Wick, I honestly felt like maybe this was one of those movies where the protagonist dies in the end. But if I hadn't seen it before and now saw John Wick and John Wick 2 Blu-rays in a box set then that's a spoiler for the first one, isn't it? Of course no one is going to get hung up on that. But you'd generally prefer that they don't announce "John Wick 2" before the first one is in theaters.

I think this is a similar thing. When Marvel announced their huge slate of movies spanning several years, there were those who complained that "knowing so and so has a movie or sequel next year means there's no risk to that character in the movie they are in this year" etc, etc.. With these two movies being their grand finale of a decade of story telling and being the end of the first era of the MCU I think they would simply like to keep the focus of the last one (A4) as mysterious as possible FOR THE GENERAL AUDIENCE until they've seen Infinity War in theaters.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the title will be some sort of massively detailed spoiler. I believe that assumption has come from internet fans interpreting some comment the wrong way and blowing things out of proportion. Which is weird, because that rarely happens.

 

[Sean Bryan]

Interesting quote from Kevin Feige in the Vanity Fair article:

While Feige refused to reveal any details about the characters and stories Marvel has yet to introduce, he did promise a definitive end to the franchise that built Marvel. Avengers 4, he said, will “bring things you’ve never seen in superhero films: a finale.” This may mean a lot of dead Avengers at the hands of the villain Thanos, who has appeared sporadically and tantalizingly since the first Avengers movie back in 2012. But the Marvel Cinematic Universe will live on. “There will be two distinct periods. Everything before Avengers 4 and everything after. I know it will not be in ways people are expecting,” Feige teased.

Though I don't know know about "never" having seen a finale. The Dark Knight Rises did a finale. But it is rare. Still, it's cool that they are using this as a major shifting point in their cinematic universe and moving into a new era of stories.

 

[TravisR]

When is the Annual HTF Superhero Challenge? You have to watch all 7,000 in two months (fairer than just one). Rumor has it Travis is planning to binge them all in a row.

I only get into that kind of wackiness for horror movies.