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Sean Bryan

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Joe did a Q&A in China.
https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelstud..._avengers_endgame/?ref_source=embed&ref=share

He talks about and clarified many story points.

Q: Why Iron Man has to be the one to do the final snap, couldn't the people like Thor, Star-Lord or Captain Marvel whom all previously have handled the power of Infinity Stones done it instead?

A: Thor in this movie couldn't do it, only Hulk was strong enough to do the snap without dying. We are still not sure whether Captain Marvel can also withstand all the power of Infinity Stones at once. The reason we choose to let Iron Man do it in the end was because he was the closest one to Thanos at the time. In all the futures Doctor Strange foresees, Iron Man was the only one who could get close to Thanos and do the snap. People usually think the death of a hero is a horrible tragedy. But we think this is different. When his death was able to bring back hope, to save half of the universe, then his death was powerful and meaningful. We shouldn't feel too sad or angry about it.


Q: Peggy Carter was probably already married and in her mid 40s in 1970, in that case what year was it that Captain America went back to dance with her?

A: We can't answer it for now, this is a story that happened in an alternate reality. Maybe it will be revealed in the future.


Q: Did Captain America's action at the end affect the timeline? Does that mean there was a time where two CA existed in a same universe?

A: To me, CA's action in the end wasn't the fact he wanted to change anything, it's more like he has made a choice. He chose to go back to the past and live with the one he loved for the rest of his life. The time travel in this movie created an alternate reality. He lived a completely different life in that world. We don't know how exactly his life turned out, but I'd like to believe he still helped many others when they were needed in that world. Yes, there were two Captain Americas in that reality, it's just like what Hulk said, what happened in the past has already happened. If you go back to the past, you simply create a new reality. The characters in this movie created new timelines when they went back to the past, but it had no effect to the prime universe. What happened in the past 22 movies was still canon.


Q: In both IW and EG, the heroes tried their best to take the glove away from Thanos, so why didn't Doctor Strange just cut off Thanos' hand with his ability?

A: Thanos' skin is almost impenetrable, we don't know whether Doctor Strange had the capability to do it. If he failed to cut it on time, Thanos would still able to do the snap. Doctor Strange realized this issue during his millions of test runs.


Q: Why did you make Thor fat? Did Chris also become fat for the role or it was done through CG?

A: It was mostly CG'd. Thor suffered more loss than anyone else, he has been living in constant pain and regret.


Q: Was old Cap played by Evans using make up? Or it was also post production CG?

A: 95% CG, 5% make up. But the voice was 100% Evans, no modification for that.


Q: Can you get the soul your sacrificed for the Soul Stone back when you return it?

A: No, the process is irreversible. Even if you have returned it to its original location, you wouldn't be able to get the person back. In fact, it's not really returning the stone, more like putting it back properly. The tribute soul for the soul stone will forever be sealed in that place, therefore Black Widow is gone forever.


Q: How would Cap react when he encountered Red Skull when he returned the stone?

A: Red Skull would probably put the soul stone back to its location, and wait for the next unfortunate stone seeker to make a sacrifice. Cap and Red Skull probably won't fight. It's because it's his mission to return the stone to its original place. The Red Skull is also no longer the same Red Skull from First Avenger. He is more like a ghost, you could almost say he's a completely different entity now. He only exists to guard the stone, his past consciousness may or may not exist anymore.


Q: In IW, Thanos used the time stone to reverse the time so he could get the stone from the already dead Vision, and it didn't cause any time parallax. Why did no one use time stone to save Iron Man's life in EG?

A: It's because even if you save Iron Man, it will still not change the fact that Thanos will eventually win the war. Among the 14 million possibilities that Doctor Strange has seen, Iron Man's sacrifice is a must for that one win scenario.


Q: How did Thanos bring his army to the future?

A: There is a guy called Maw in his army, he was a great wizard. Thanos himself was a brilliant genius as well. Those two easily reverse engineered and mass produced Pym Particles.


Q: What about those people who got dusted? What did those five years mean to them? Why didn't they grow older when undusted?

A: Yes, those people who were lucky to survive the snap are 5 years older than the people who just got back. The reason Spider Man saw his friend again in high school at the end was simply because his friends was unfortunately also dusted like Spider Man was. Of course, there are people in his grade whom didn't die and they are probably already in college by now. To those dusted people, they had no consciousness in these past 5 years. They didn't know what happened. It's as if they had just woke up from a long sleep. The only one who was aware about how many years has passed was Doctor Strange, because he has already seen that when he was time mediating on Titan. Parker's reunion with Ned was a touching moment. There are also people whom indeed moved on but suddenly were reunited with their lost ones. Yeah it's kind of a complicated world now.


Q: What if the mouse didn't press the button to turn on the quantum machine, wouldn't that stop EG from happening? Isn't this a bit too much of a coincidence?

A: Yes, the MOUSE SAVED THE UNIVERSE. Among the many realities in those 14 millions possible futures Doctor Strange foresee, the mouse failed to press button and thus the heroes failed in those futures.


Q: EG's plot, is it a parallel universe or a closed time loop?

A: Nope, not a time loop. Both Ancient One and Hulk were right. You can't change the future by simply going back to past. But it's possible to create a different alternate future. It's not butterfly effect. Every decision you made in the past could potentially create a new timeline. For example, the old Cap at the end movie, he lived his married life in a different universe from the main one. He had to make another jump back to the main universe at the end to give the shield to Sam.


Q: There were some metal smashing sound when the movie ended. Was that an easter egg? or just a tribute to Iron Man, or maybe an implication that Iron Man will return?

A: It was our way to say goodbye to him.


Q: Why there was no Iron Man's body in his funeral, only his arc reactor? And is there any secret messages for bring back that kid from Iron Man 3?

A: We just feel that he should participate in Iron Man's funeral. As for whether he will appear again in future, who knows.


Q: Why didn't Black Widow get a funeral as well?

A: Did you forget when the heroes where mourning for her after when they returned from past? Maybe her funeral happened off screen. Maybe it will be shown in future installment, because there are still tons of stories in MCU that are waiting to be tell.
 

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We didn't stay for it, our bladders wouldn't allow it, so we missed that post-credit at the very end. I talked to a friend and the screen goes red with the word Marvel and a metallic sounding clank-clank. What does that mean?

It was the sound of Tony hammering out his Mark One armor in the cave from the first MCU film. It was just a callback to that.
 

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Howard the Duck and the Ravagers were at the climactic MCU battle!

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That also makes me think that 2014 Gamora left Earth this way. She left through a sorcerer’s sling ring portal with the other “Space Folk” or she had one conjure a portal for her separately.
I don't see Howard the Duck or was this just tongue-in-cheek?
 

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We didn't stay for it, our bladders wouldn't allow it, so we missed that post-credit at the very end. I talked to a friend and the screen goes red with the word Marvel and a metallic sounding clank-clank. What does that mean?


It's a callback to the sound of Tony making the original Iron Man armor in the cave in Afghanistan.
 

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Thanos: I am inevitable. “snap”

Tony: I am Iron Man. “SNAP
The only reason I knew what he was saying is because I knew what he was going to say. But it was delivered more like, "I... am... .... ... Iron Man" in a breathy whisper. I kept whispering, "Iron Man" over and over again because that pause was 8 months pregnant.
 

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I don't see Howard the Duck or was this just tongue-in-cheek?
 

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Speaking of the gauntlet, I propose that most unbelievable thing in Infinity War and Endgame is being able to snap your fingers while wearing that thing. :lol:

Why was it even necessary for the wearer to snap his fingers? In Guardians of the Galaxy, Ronan put one of the Infinity Stones into a staff. It was very clear that all he had to do was to strike the base of the staff onto Xandar's soil, while thinking bad thoughts, to kill everyone else on the planet. Yet Thanos considered Ronan to be a mere "boy".

I know, I know ... if Thanos had merely waved his gloved hand to "dust" half of the people in the Universe, it wouldn't have been as dramatic.
 

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Why was it even necessary for the wearer to snap his fingers? In Guardians of the Galaxy, Ronan put one of the Infinity Stones into a staff. It was very clear that all he had to do was to strike the base of the staff onto Xandar's soil, while thinking bad thoughts, to kill everyone else on the planet. Yet Thanos considered Ronan to be a mere "boy".

I know, I know ... if Thanos had merely waved his gloved hand to "dust" half of the people in the Universe, it wouldn't have been as dramatic.

I think that while the individual stones can be used like that, using their combined power in such a God-like way required some special means of combining them and using them together. That was the function of the gauntlets.

With the Gauntlet, he couldn’t just wave his hand to use any of the individual stones either. He had to close his fist. Further evidence that the way the Gauntlet allows the wearer to wield the Stones individuality or together required some sort of “mechanism”
 

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I watched Guardians 1 last night and I am picking up discrepancies as to when Gamora knew what when. In the scene with the collector in Guardians 1 Gamora appears to not know what infinity stones are and if she did she had no idea that one was in that sphere. In End Game she knew that the sphere had the power stone before Star Lord even picked it up.
My headcanon is that Gamora didn't trust the other Guardians with that information at that point in the story, and so played dumb in that scene.

This discrepancy really dates back to the Guardians ... Vol. 2 era, when Gamora revealed to Nebula that she knew the location of the Soul Stone.

Q: What about those people who got dusted? What did those five years mean to them? Why didn't they grow older when undusted?

A: Yes, those people who were lucky to survive the snap are 5 years older than the people who just got back. The reason Spider Man saw his friend again in high school at the end was simply because his friends was unfortunately also dusted like Spider Man was. Of course, there are people in his grade whom didn't die and they are probably already in college by now. To those dusted people, they had no consciousness in these past 5 years. They didn't know what happened. It's as if they had just woke up from a long sleep. The only one who was aware about how many years has passed was Doctor Strange, because he has already seen that when he was time mediating on Titan. Parker's reunion with Ned was a touching moment. There are also people whom indeed moved on but suddenly were reunited with their lost ones. Yeah it's kind of a complicated world now.
Glad to get confirmation that Ned got dusted at the end of Infinity War and thus remains roughly the same age as Peter. I just misread the scene at the end of Endgame where they reunited. Presumably MJ, Flash, and Betty all got dusted too.
 

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My headcanon is that Gamora didn't trust the other Guardians with that information at that point in the story, and so played dumb in that scene.

This discrepancy really dates back to the Guardians ... Vol. 2 era, when Gamora revealed to Nebula that she knew the location of the Soul Stone.


Glad to get confirmation that Ned got dusted at the end of Infinity War and thus remains roughly the same age as Peter. I just misread the scene at the end of Endgame where they reunited. Presumably MJ, Flash, and Betty all got dusted too.

Yeah, the reason they embraced like that wasn’t that one hadn’t seen the other in 5 years but more like if you were on a plane with someone and it almost crashed. When you get safety to the ground you’d probably hug whoever was with you that you cared about in a “Holy Shit! We almost died!” kind of way.
 

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