ATTN!!!! New, HORRIBLE butchering of programs on TNT!!!

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  1. Dave Mack

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    Hey Y'all!!!
    This is the 1st time I have seen this...
    During "Father of the Bride II" tonite on TNT, I noticed a new, DISTURBING thing at 12:10AM ...
    After the film returned from the commercial and the inevitable "BUG" logo popped up and then 2 promos in the corner for what was on TNT next and "The Peacemaker" debuting sun. nite went by, the screen compressed upward and a small advertisement for AMEX appeared on the bottom of the screen!!!!!!!! Saying something along the lines of... "Having a baby? Call American Express for special offers, etc..." DURING the movie!!!!!! My Fiancee and I both Shreiked!!! What the hey?!?!?!?
    It's bad enough that we had to learn to live with channel bugs... and promos (on TBS as well...!) for what's on next... sunday nite etc.. superimposed over the program, but now ADVERTISEMENTS?!?!?!?
    DURING THE SHOW?!?!?!?
    Hell, I HOPE this does NOT become the NORM!!!! We must protest this NOW!!!!!
    I mean, this is a CABLE channel!!! We PAY for Cable channels!! They are not free! Therefore, we as consumers should have an opinion and a VOICE!!!!!
    I was truly appalled. What's next?
    Soon, I won't watch ANY Tv anymore, I'll just wait for and rent the inevitable DVD....!!!
    [​IMG] Dave Mack (NOT happy in NYC!!!!!)
     
  2. Jeff

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    I knew this would happen sooner or later. TNN is trying very hard to make it acceptable to advertise during programming. First they start with that black bar at the bottom that serves no purpose. They get the viewers used to it and desensitized. Then they start showing the odd ad in this black bar. In the future they will probably use it advertise all the time.

    TNN sucks anyway, but my big fear is this will catch on to other stations.



    Jeff
     
  3. Michael*K

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    Dave, are you trying to set the HTF record for exclamation points in a post? [​IMG]
     
  4. Craig_T

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    TNN actually showed one of the Godfather movies a few days ago WITHOUT their black bar and with a transparent version of their crappy logo. It was quite a revelation, and only further magnified how horrible their usual presentations are.
     
  5. MickeS

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    Finally! I was waiting for this, since that must have been the whole purpose of their black bar from the beginning.
    To be honest, I'd prefer this to interruptions, as long as they keep the aspect ratio intact (I realize this is not the case now, and I doubt it will be, so I'm just speaking hypotheitcally here), especially during sitcoms and stuff. I'd prefer 30 minutes of "Friends" with 7 minutes of "bottom of the screen" advertising than 23 minutes of it with 7 minutes of advertising in interruptions.
    I rarely watch movies on TV, so it doesn't bother me so much for that.
    However, I'm sure that they won't be satisfied with just showing the bar for 14/60 an hour, they probably will show advertisements all the time. The good thing about that would of course be that it can easily be matted off the screen completely! [​IMG]
    /Mike
     
  6. Michael St. Clair

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    I don't watch TNT at all any more thanks to this crap.
     
  7. Jack Briggs

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    This was part of what made give up on cable itself. It's only going to get worse--it will start on the most obnoxious cable channels and migrate slowly to the OTA networks.

    The only solution, I fear, is a political one.

    Think about it: Those pre-program sponsorship messages on PBS are in fact the same commercials those advertisers run on commercial broadcast television.

    "Television" itself is fast becoming unwatchable. There is too much advertising and corporate clutter in our lives as it is. And, yes, the fact that we're already paying for cable adds unforgivable insult to unforgivable injury.

    My rationalization in life: I have more than one DVD player, more than 450 DVDs, and a lot of Internet obligations to fill out my time.

    Thanks, commercial television, but no thanks. I've pretty much quit on you.
     
  8. Jason Seaver

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  9. todd s

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    The TNN bar is the reason I fear them getting CSI in syndication. With regard to TNT. I tape a few tv shows of them. And so far. Nothing to horrible. Just the logo in the corner. And an occasional popup mentioning another show. But, TNN's bar is completely unacceptable.
     
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    Yeah, are we talking about TNN, or has TNT started with this too? I assumed that it was just a typo on the part of the original poster, and that he really meant TNN.

    /Mike
     
  11. LarryDavenport

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    As annoying as TNT's black bars are or FX's exploding promos, it doesn't compare to the annoying pop up ads on the Internet. I got one today for a travel agency that kept bouncing around, making it impossible to click "Off." You had to go to the web page to close the window. I am all for free speach, but I'd sign a petition to legislate against unwanted pop ads (and I don't think I should have to pay $30 for a program to eliminate them).
     
  12. Jack Briggs

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    Socialism never seemed so attractive.
     
  13. Rich Malloy

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    Here's the only political solution worth discussing: the good ol' fashioned democratic act of individual citizens changing the channel.

    Try TCM instead.

    I never watch TNN, and have never missed it. If everybody did the same - or at least a large enough majority of you - they'd change their practices or go bankrupt. And if a majority choose to watch it anyway, who am I to deny them that right?

    I mean, if I happened to know that someone actually watched TNN, it would elicit from me sniggers and sneers and a general feeling of "you, moron, you"... but I wouldn't attempt the futile act of legislating your moronosity away.
     
  14. Todd H

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    Larry, try Pop-Up Killer. It's free and does the job well using IE. Or download Mozilla 1.0. Mozilla enables you to disable pop-ups as well.

    As for cable, TNN takes the cake. Between that big-ass black bar at the bottom, time compressing programs, and annoying J6P ads where viewers extol the virtues of TNN, I'm pretty much done with them. Thanks god for DVD.
     
  15. Jesse Skeen

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    So can someone tell me again why I should shell out $30 a month and/or buy a dish to get this stuff??? [​IMG]
    "Why did I ever pay for this junk? They hooked up 50 channels, and each one stunk!"- Weird Al
     
  16. Jack Briggs

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    Jesse: I'm four months into my post-cable life, and I don't miss cable programming in the slightest. The only time that made me almost wince was when I noticed The History Channel was broadcasting a documentary on the B-29 Superfortress (I love airplanes). I don't even miss The News With Brian Williams on MSNBC all that much. Figures, since, all along, close to ninety percent of my television viewing has been on PBS anyway. And the local PBS affiliates have relative unobtrusive station-bug logos. I think back to cable now, and I almost feel a sense of relief. Why pay for stuff that annoys you? JB
     
  17. Jesse Skeen

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    Only "unobtrusive" bugs? I guess I should be glad the PBS station in Sacramento has NO bug, except for one showing their channel number that seems to stay on for the first 2 minutes of shows but goes away after that. Shockingly San Francisco's PBS station has had a bug for a while now, I have to wonder how many memberships that's cost them.
    BTW this is a VERY sad state of affairs since PBS stations are supposed to operate in the interest of the PUBLIC, not to any corporate or marketing types. Also, cable was originally supposed to be BETTER than regular TV, both in technical and program quality, but it quickly degenerated into about the same or worse in some cases.
     
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  19. Jack Briggs

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    Jesse: You and I could not be more in agreement. Our main PBS affiliate down here was the lone holdout on the damn bugs. Now it has an opaque "KCET" logo in the lower right. It sometimes obscures subtitles and attributions of people being interviewed. Yet it is the least obtrusive station bug I know of. There are no bug-free channels I can get. And, Ken, you're so right: Just a little self-restraint would go a long way. Don't expect any, though.
    Jason: a Congressional act, baby, a Congressional act! [​IMG]
     
  20. Thi Them

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    The only thing I watch on TNN is WWE programming, and there are no bars during the shows.

    ~T
     

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