I have an option here.. I just finished installing my Athena AS-B2's on my Pioneer 1014tx. The bass is very minimal even after i adjusted the EQ settings. (Unless anyone has any idea how to get a bit more bass outta these speakers on that amp) I would like to get more bass going but i am debating now between getting 2 tower speakers which would be Athena AS-F2 or the Velodyne DSP-12B. Either one is 600$ canadian. I have heard the Velodyne sub and i was quite impressed with how much power it had for the size of room it was in. I'm open to ideas.. if you have any suggestions on another sub to check out lemme know.