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Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Brian Husar, Feb 9, 2009.
Yet we depend on Warner to release it on Blu-ray.
The Warner policy does not lead only to that. It also leads to a torrent of extremely high quality discs available at moderate prices.
Indeed it should be obvious that working with a budget one can only do so much and from what I have gathered now the Archive mainly likes to work with movies that are at least in decent condition and where an IP can be produced or accessed in order to keep costs down. This in turn leads to releases that are very good except obviously for the last bit of detail that could be extracted from a camera negative but at a much higher cost.
I have to say that I while I like to see as much detail as possible in my classic Blu-rays I still prefer this approach as it simply leads to a much higher number of high quality releases and many more of them compared to the alternative.
Around the World in 80 Days
The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm
The Charge at Feather River
Phantom of the Rue Morgue
The Bounty Hunter
Popeye, the Ace of Space
Would love to see any of these released on Blu-ray by WB. If it's too expensive to digitally restore them for WB please let someone else do it for a lot less.
Dear RolandL ... boy, do I agree with you on your first three posted above. And while the old
expression "When pigs fly" does come to mind, so does "Hope springs eternal"! Oh, and I'd
also add the probably never to be restored THE ALAMO and PORGY AND BESS!
I agree with that! The output of Warner Archive Blu-rays in the past year is absolutely nothing to complain about.
Not to hijack the thread, and not complaining abt WB's output but what in creation is holding up a release of "Oh God!" (original +/or sequels)?
I meant in regard to supplemental content. Seems like there's some fascinating stuff in their holdings, even if it doesn't help the film proper.
I recently picked up the UK Indicator release of The Lady from Shanghai. The liner notes point out that not only was Sony's 4K restoration used to create a DCP and home video masters, it was output back to 35mm to make a new negative and 35mm prints.
That's kind of the elephant in the room for a lot of these 4K restorations and remasters. Studios are doing an incredible job for DCP and Blu-ray, but is anything being done to actually preserve them? I understand it when it's an obscure film with heavily compromised elements (like the Cinerama travelogues), but it certainly seems like a lot of this work never leaves the digital realm. Even Manos: The Hands of Fate got a new 35mm preservation negative and prints out of its restoration.
Most important projects go back to film, but it’s expensive. 60-250k. And those film elements do nothing, or little to add to profits.
I hope that at least the original negative, and fine grains, are very well archived (drie & cold storage), checked every few years, to allow that fadding and deterioration will got restorers by surprise.
A colored movie it's more expansive to preserve on chemical film than a B&W movie. Even more expansive if its 70mm.
The digital file lose some vey few detail when it's printed back to film. But digital files are not reliable in long or even medium term for archival. The advantage is that it can be copied without detail loss, bu the medias are very fragile, 2TB HD are very sensitive (more than 50GB HD). Digital tapes it's fragile too.
CDs, Laser Disc, DVD, blu-rau, ultra blu ray. It all oxidates in few decades in general. Some people fooly think that have a Blu-ray is to have a film forever.
It's on TCM HD right now. Looks strange though. Very clear and sharp but looks like 30 frames per sec shown at 24.
Non sync shots are generally 30 frames cuts, trims, extras.
Now it looks OK. It was the the flamenco dancing and bullfight scenes that looked strange.
Edit: Train shots now look strange.
Best not to watch the 24fps version. There is currently a documentary in production, concerning the thousands who have gone missing after doing precisely that.
I was impressed with a majority of the presentation. Is this a new transfer?
Yes, better not to recommend that version to anybody, I do not want to be responsible for thousands of lost souls...
That being said watching the DVD is not really a good solution either. Being so technologically advanced with its 65mm negative and 30fps has now turned against Around the World in 80 Days and makes it severely compromised on home media.
It is probably the same version that you could buy for some time already from various streaming services. Apart from the frame rate issues it looks pretty good especially with regard to detail.
I thought it looked really good, save for the occasional spots and specks.