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Are there video game reviews done by the HTF like the DVD reviews?

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by David Galindo, Nov 16, 2003.

  1. Jay Mitchosky

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    I meant people that waited months in anticipation for the game to release and put their hard earned money down to get it.
     
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    But that in itself means they're biased - they have different expectations for the game than someone who just happened across it in a shop.
     
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    Whats this thread about again?
    I think the original poster was asking weather or not HTF would do reviews of games like it does for movies.
    First, I don't think we NEED reviews on any particular game. Also, with the number of games & consoles out there, it'd almost be impossible.
    I think if its a game people want to talk about, then they will. If you have a question about a particular game or would like to tell us what you thought about it, then post a topic about it (assuming one hasnt already been started)
    There are plenty of sites that review games, most of those allow people to post their personal thoughts about that game. Once you filter out the asshats, you can get a pretty good idea on weather or not you will like the game. If you're still undecided, I've heard that they rent games now.
     
  12. Larry Talbot

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    "First, I don't think we NEED reviews on any particular game. Also, with the number of games & consoles out there, it'd almost be impossible.
    I think if its a game people want to talk about, then they will. If you have a question about a particular game or would like to tell us what you thought about it, then post a topic about it (assuming one hasnt already been started)
    There are plenty of sites that review games, most of those allow people to post their personal thoughts about that game."

    I don't think you've really been reading this thread. With VERY few exceptions, there are hardly any sites out there that offer game reviews with an HT audience in mind. Even those sites that have been mentioned in this thread have a spotty track record when it comes to clearly stating whether a game supports 480p and 16:9 screens, the two essential factors in HT compatability. Your statment that "with the number of games & consoles out there, it'd almost be impossible" is curious. Do you mean it would be impossible for this site to review every game released for every console? Of COURSE that would be impossible. Which is why most sites DON'T review every game for every console. You seem to be suggesting that unles the HTF can cover every game for every console, it shouldn't even try. That's ridiculous.

    While I think Romier has a point, that we all have a certain degree of bias, I think there are degrees. Having an opinion ("I like First Person Shooters" or "I like games with a horror theme") is not the same as "This company gives me games for free and if I give them a negative review they might cut me off" or "I've been waiting for months and months for this game, soaking up all the hype, and I just spent fifty bucks on it so it better meet my expectations" or "I've been waiting for months and months for this game, soaking up all the hype, and I just spent fifty bucks on it so I'm going to find something to like about it no matter what."
    Again, a matter of degrees.

    As for civility, or a lack of civility, sometimes I think we can be a little too sensitive at the HTF. Yeah, John_Berger used the word "bullshit" in his post, and yeah he is making a very forceful argument, but so what? He's making a strong argument, to which we are free to offer equally strong counter arguments, should we so wish. I do agree that, instead of labeling someone's point "bullshit," it is more polite to simply state WHY you disagree with it - but it isn't the end of the world either. Compared to most of the forums I see out there, this place is very, VERY reserved. Most of the time I think that's a good thing, but I think it can also lead to us being too quick to take mortal offense.
     
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    OK, my 1st post here in a long, long, long time. [​IMG]

    Anyway, the problem with finding sites that mention all the things that people at HTF want to know is this:

    Most gamers don't own home theaters like most folks here do, and if they did, most wouldn't care about 480p, 16:9, etc. Why you ask? Here is why... gameplay is #1. I have a pretty nice HT, if the game looks as good as my Finding Nemo DVD but plays like a $2 turd, guess what? I will have nothing to do with it. If a game I want to play is in 5.1, 480p, and is enhanced for my 16:9 Toshiba that is great, but if it isn't, I will not worry too much about it.

    I understand that this is a HT site and a lot of the gamers here care about the HT aspect of gaming, the problem is this, most gamers don't. You are in the minority when it comes to gaming.

    -Dean-
     
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    "Most gamers don't own home theaters like most folks here do, and if they did, most wouldn't care about 480p, 16:9, etc. Why you ask? Here is why... gameplay is #1."

    Yes, of course gameplay is number one. No thinking person would dispute this. But tell me - what good is gameplay if I can't PLAY the game? I have a Z1 front projector with a VGA input hooked up to my Xbox. This lets me play Xbox games in beautiful detail on my 82-inch wide screen. Ninety-five percent of Xbox games are in 480p but a handful continue to come out ("The Haunted Mansion" seems to be the latest) which aren't, due to lazy coding or whatever. This makes them UNPLAYABLE on my setup, which won't play 480i material through the VGA input, period.
    So while it is also a matter of asthetics - interlaced games can look terrible when projected on a large screen - it is FIRST and foremost a matter of whether I can play the game at ALL.
    As for 16:9, RPTV sales are soaring and most of those are in 16:9. While your average consumer remains clueless ("What are them black bars doin' on my TV?") 4:3 RPTV sets are nonetheless a dying breed. I think more people are going to want to use the screen real estate available to them, rather than be confined to a 4:3 square in the middle, so this question may eventually prove to be more important to your average consumer than you might think. Even if it doesn't, it will still be important to those of us in the know, and no - that doesn't mean we don't care about gameplay.

    "I understand that this is a HT site and a lot of the gamers here care about the HT aspect of gaming, the problem is this, most gamers don't. You are in the minority when it comes to gaming."

    Of course. And I think most people here realize that, and aren't expecting Gamespot or IGN to suddenly start optimizing their reviews for the HT crowd. No one is going to do that for us. Which is why it would be nice to do it ourselves - here.
     
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    The gameplay vs. techspec argument is ongoing on this forum. Ultimately the game needs to be fundamentally sound. However, I think it would be hard to pass a redfaced test and tell someone that the technical presentation doesn't matter. A solid technical presentation may well enhance gameplay - for example, progressive scan or antialiasing making a racetrack smoother and therefor easier to navigate.
     
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    Larry and Jay,

    Don't get me wrong, I am all for more enhancements to games, but until gamers really voice their opinions about it or developers get on the HT bandwagon, all the goodies we love for our HT's will not be here anytime soon as a standard. If it were up to me, all developers would take a look at games like Splinter Cell, Crimson Skies, Rainbow Six 3, Project Gotham Racing 2 to see how things should be implemented. Sound, graphics, and gameplay are all top notch in those titles. I know all are generally for the X-box, but look what Ubisoft pulled out of the PS2 for Splinter Cell.

    Sorry to hear about your gaming rig Larry, it must suck really bad to not be able to play all games on your display.

    -Dean-
     

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