since it could technically be used as a componet, i figured this would be a good area to post; if not please move this thread to a better home.... http://www.apple.com/ipod/ Apple's really raised the bar as far as integration goes. 5 gigs of tunes, automatically synced with iTunes over firewire. It also doubles as a harddrive. the coolest feature IMHO is the ability to charge itself as it syncs- it draws power from the firewire bus. Very cool indeed! I think this is going to be THE gift to give the mac person in your life this xmas. I also think this thing will help apple move more hardware, especially if a student was on the edge between a mac or pc.