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Apple TV 4K official

Discussion in 'Apple' started by Sam Posten, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. Sam Posten

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    You must be new to the Apple ecosystem =) Be reasonable, do it their way
     
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    In this case the Apple way is objectively wrong.
     
  3. Wayne_j

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    My AppleTV 4K finally arrived today. For whatever reason it wouldn't work in 4K HDR 60p mode with my TV but I was able to get it to work at 4K HDR 24p.

    The automatic SDR to HDR conversion is terrible, I put on an episode of The Great Food Truck Race and it made my set look like it was in torch mode. After that I set the TV to 4k SDR 60p where I will keep it unless I know for a fact the contact I am about to watch is HDR. Apple really needs to figure out how to fit SDR into an HDR package.
     
  4. Sam Posten

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    This isn’t about UI choices. This is like forcing music to always be played back in five channel “stereo” instead of conventional 2.0 mode to because they don’t want to burden the user with waiting for their AVR to change processing modes.

    The first rule of HTF Club is... well...

    The second rule or HTF Club is to play media back the way it was authored, as best possible.

    If you want to switch over to soap opera mode, temporal upscaling, SDR-to-HDR revisions, whatever, that’s your option.

    But first you enable media to be played back natively.

    There’s no excuse for Apple, who are selling a “premium” client at 2x the cost of other playback clients to fail at the basic playback.
     
  6. Ted Todorov

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    So for all the new AppleTV negativity (I was just listening to a Verge podcast claiming "nobody" would buy, because it was too expensive and didn't do enough) it is the only thing completely sold out at all of NYC's Apple Stores (the new Apple Watches and iPhones are widely available). I was just in the local Apple Store yesterday for other reasons, but was going to pick up the aTV as well, only to find out about the sell-out. "Maybe Monday morning" was what I heard about the next shipment.
     
  7. Sam Posten

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    Dave you know that greater rhan 90% of TVs on the market will do the 3:2 pull down, right?
     
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    Do. Got my 64 gig Apple 4K tv.

    I’m confused as to what setting it should be on

    I have an lg OLED 65 e6p

    4K hdr 50 Hz
    4K Dolby Vision 30hz
    Etc????

    So many to choose from

    Robert?
     
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    I’ve got a 2009 Kuro and a 2016 Sony Projector. Feeding either one 24p content at 60p results in visible judder. Giving them 24p content at 24p looks great.

    This AppleTV behavior may explain the playback quirks I’m seeing with some content.
     
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    Had to take my ATV4K back after it started looking like this. New one is so far so good ;)

    2768138D-DEB0-4DC4-B9ED-194FCF7782A1.
    D0C71262-79A5-4118-A136-36841B50188B.
     
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    That's a feature.
     
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    ...in Smurf Village
     
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    It's the new ATV 4K "Yondu Filter".

    [​IMG]
     
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    I know I’m being a hardass on this matter. And Joe6P doesn’t care about those things. But this is a forum for people who get riled up about about doing stuff right.

    Or if reviews said that Apple’s got amazing video processing that temporally scales imperceptibly ... but all I’m reading is this premium device is missing or borking premium features, all because they left out basic features.
     
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    :laugh:
     
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    No help? With all you experts? Sam? ;)
     
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    Leave it at default
     
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    Which is what?
     
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    Whatever the ATV selects for you
     
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    This is the first 4K capable streaming device I have owned and I definitely think that the image quality from apple purchases and 4k Netflix programs is better than from HD Blu-Ray. Apple has a non HDR 4K version of The Wrath of Khan which looks very good. I wish Paramount would use this platform to release The Godfather in SDR 4K, HEVC handles film grain very well.
     
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