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When I get a chance, I'll double check this with the current OS13 and the Movies app, but I suspect it's still the same. Most of what I buy through iTunes is movies that are only available on DVD elsewhere, so most of what I buy is HD only and no Atmos, but I do have two with Atmos, and I figure Midsommar is the best one to check, since it's a new movie.
Sorry Dave, the sarcasm came out as spite, not intended.
You're asking for a feature that their box can't make significant use of due to storage limitations, that -primarily- benefits pirates with minor benefit to greybeards who still think there is a significant benefit to ripping their own very large media and one that's antithetical to their streaming business.
You might as well wish they'd actually support physical media. That's as big an ask as what you are looking for, And one that would benefit significantly more users. If they did that you'd get your TrueHD processing essentially for free... =)
The bottom line is Lossy Atmos is fine for streaming. If you want full tilt boogie Atmos, stick to disks.
You're asking for a feature that their box can't make significant use of due to storage limitations, that -primarily- benefits pirates with minor benefit to greybeards who still think there is a significant benefit to ripping their own very large media and one that's antithetical to their streaming business.
You might as well wish they'd actually support physical media. That's as big an ask as what you are looking for, And one that would benefit significantly more users. If they did that you'd get your TrueHD processing essentially for free... =)
The bottom line is Lossy Atmos is fine for streaming. If you want full tilt boogie Atmos, stick to disks.
A guy can wish. If the aTV did this, it would be really close to The One Box To Rule Them All. It has some other quirks with video playback— it can’t handle MPEG2 natively in my experience.
So I’ve got a Shield for best-quality movie watching and the aTV for streaming services in the theater.
Shield has its quirks too. (Wide Color Gamut has been an issue, I think I’ve read.)
That’s the meta-frustration: no vendor has a universal streaming box product.
So I’ve got a Shield for best-quality movie watching and the aTV for streaming services in the theater.
Shield has its quirks too. (Wide Color Gamut has been an issue, I think I’ve read.)
That’s the meta-frustration: no vendor has a universal streaming box product.
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Different topic: what’s the deal with aTV frame rate matching and/or smoothing?
Black Mirror on Netflix is 25 FPS, I’m given to understand. With frame-rate sync off (interpolation on?), it looks terrible: herky jerky non stop. Refresh rate sync on, all good, looks right.
I tend to prefer native frame rate with hardware sync, so I’m happy now that I’ve got it sorted.
But I thought I’d read the aTV was aces at frame-rate interpolation / motion smoothing (e.g. output all content at fixed 60 Hz to avoid display sync changes) and my HD unit is obviously not good at this. Is that something specific to the 4K model? Or a Netflix app weirdness?
Black Mirror on Netflix is 25 FPS, I’m given to understand. With frame-rate sync off (interpolation on?), it looks terrible: herky jerky non stop. Refresh rate sync on, all good, looks right.
I tend to prefer native frame rate with hardware sync, so I’m happy now that I’ve got it sorted.
But I thought I’d read the aTV was aces at frame-rate interpolation / motion smoothing (e.g. output all content at fixed 60 Hz to avoid display sync changes) and my HD unit is obviously not good at this. Is that something specific to the 4K model? Or a Netflix app weirdness?
Dave, what are you asking? Are you saying it looks good with "Match Frame Rate" enabled, but bad when it's disabled?
Yes.
I’d read that aTV interpolation was really good. Is that specific to the 4k model? Or maybe I misremember, and that’s not so.
Do you have a way of determining what frame rate it’s putting out with the two settings? I know the Marantz app shows it.
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The 4K box (which I have, but is used for HD) does all of that great. And the Infuse app does MPEG2 just fine.
That’s what’s frustrating about iOS but mostly solved by Infuse. The actual hardware in the box is capable of so much more than what the iOS restricts it to, and Infuse works around that and it’s almost the equivalent of jailbreaking a phone back in the day, and all of a sudden, the AppleTV box is extraordinary.
I would bet that it’s technically capable of doing perfect Atmos it only someone would figure out what code to write to make it happen.
That’s what’s frustrating about iOS but mostly solved by Infuse. The actual hardware in the box is capable of so much more than what the iOS restricts it to, and Infuse works around that and it’s almost the equivalent of jailbreaking a phone back in the day, and all of a sudden, the AppleTV box is extraordinary.
I would bet that it’s technically capable of doing perfect Atmos it only someone would figure out what code to write to make it happen.
Ok. Maybe the 4K is better at it than the HD. I’m half remembering an argument about frame rate sync back in 2017, before aTV could do it.
It might be specific to non-US frame rates like 25fps. I’ve had my AppleTV set to interpolate for a while without issue, for lots of Netflix and Prime and Hulu TV and some movies. But Black Mirror doesn’t play right without hardware sync matching.
It might be specific to non-US frame rates like 25fps. I’ve had my AppleTV set to interpolate for a while without issue, for lots of Netflix and Prime and Hulu TV and some movies. But Black Mirror doesn’t play right without hardware sync matching.
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I know that my 4K box does that match frame rate beautifully - it gets used for a lot of Great British Bake-off!
What was cool for me on getting the frame rates right was showing that off to my wife and our friends, who had gotten used to UK programming having that PAL to NTSC conversion built in and thought that was simply how their TV looked. It was semi-mind blowing to show them BBC material like Doctor Who looking normal!
What was cool for me on getting the frame rates right was showing that off to my wife and our friends, who had gotten used to UK programming having that PAL to NTSC conversion built in and thought that was simply how their TV looked. It was semi-mind blowing to show them BBC material like Doctor Who looking normal!
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Yes, in fact the majority of the DVDs from my collection that I bothered copying to my Mac are PAL, so I depend on Infuse/aTV 4K to make them look properly on my LG OLED 4K HDR tv - and I am very happy with the results
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For Dolby Atmos fans - now officially supported by Infuse: https://firecore.com/blog/24493
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Now if only they’d start supporting bonus features I’d be over the moon!
Infuse doesn't support Emby. (yeah, I'm a weirdo and don't use Plex
)Emby support has been announced as an upcoming feature for Infuse!
I'm intrigued and looking forward to checking this out in the future. I'll be following along via the Emby forum.
How do you guys feel about Apple buying Disney and DirecTV? I seriously doubt it happens, but you never know in today's corporate world.
https://hometheaterreview.com/if-apple-is-buying-disney-they-should-pop-for-directv-too/
https://hometheaterreview.com/if-apple-is-buying-disney-they-should-pop-for-directv-too/
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Well, that's one way for Apple to finally get 4K transfers of Disney products in iTunes.
I am no fan of Di$ney as a company, but a combined Apple + Disney conglomerate wouldn't be good for home entertainment, IMO. There needs to be more competition -- not less.
Yes, absolutely. Take two of the greediest companies and let them merge, prices will go up.Well, that's one way for Apple to finally get 4K transfers of Disney products in iTunes.
I am no fan of Di$ney as a company, but a combined Apple + Disney conglomerate wouldn't be good for home entertainment, IMO. There needs to be more competition -- not less.
After Apple buys directv, they can buy Verizon to get all its AOL dial-up customers! Imagine what an AppleTV would look like to replace those clunky modems!
that article made no sense to me.
that article made no sense to me.
No new Apple TV today. No mini iPhone either. Maybe released at a virtual town hall next week or on the 31st as rumored?
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