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Apple TV 4K official

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  1. Robert Crawford

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    I'm playing around with one of my AppleTV4K units as I have been experimenting with my new OLEDC9P. I've turned off any video processing by my Marantz 6013. I either want the Oppo 203 or the OLED to do any video processing.
     
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    I also turn off all video processing on my receiver. When processing is on, I lose Dolby Vision and when I turn it off I get DV but I lose the volume display on the screen, but that doesn't matter to me anyway.
    Receiver is Marantz SR7010 and TV is 65A8 OLED.

    Brian
     
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    I lose the on screen display from my Denon X3300W receiver when it's passing through Dolby Vision, too. It seems to be a common theme with Marantz and Denon, which share a lot of hardware and software. It's not a huge deal, but I do get used to having the volume display on my screen, as I cannot see the Denon's small readout from my seat.
     
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    I'm hoping that's not the case with newer models of receiver.
     
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    On my Marantz SR6013 I don't lose Dolby Vision when video processing is on. However, when I turn video processing off, I do lose volume display on the screen, but still have Dolby Vision.
     
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    Ah, yeah, right. There are two settings on Marantz. Video processing is required to be "On" for OSD during playback. "Off" means the receiver doesn't interact at all with the video signal. Then there's the scaler, which will upsample images to a higher resolution. I have Video Processing "On" so I get the volume display, but scaling off.
     
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    879E8DCD-EAF7-42B3-A8D2-2CFD4503DBF6. I have a Denon 3400 JT don’t have a 4K tv yet so I leave conversion on but turn off scaler.
    This way I can still see the on screen dispaly but if I had DV I’d probably turn it off or change it when watching a DV program.
     
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    The new tvOS beta is out - the Trailers app now works.

    I was also having a hell of a time fast forwarding and rewinding through content, but that is now fixed as well.
     
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    Although it's a little weird seeing my face every time I want to shut the thing down


    75B5DF91-4C4E-48DD-A4C7-B1883E0C9AB6.
     
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    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

    So THAT'S what you look like!

    :laugh:
     
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    I can't get any of those Amazon shows to play in HDR and I have tried all settings. They played fine in HDR on my Roku 4 units, but not my ATV4K units.

    Edit:
    Okay, I played around with the settings some more and this is what I came up with that allowed me to watch several Amazon shows in HDR on my ATV4K unit.

    Format: 4K HDR 60Hz
    Chroma: 4:2:2
    Match Dynamic Range: Off
    Match Frame Rate: On


    The following Amazon shows played in HDR after making the above settings:

    Jack Ryan
    Hanna
    The Widow
    Fleabag
    Good Omens
    The Tick
    The Boys
    Breathe
    Homecoming
    The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel
    Sneaky Pete
    Bosch
    The Romanoffs
    The ABC Murders
    King Lear
    Mad Dogs
    The Man in the High Castle
    Absentia
    Ordeal of Innocence
    The Hand of God
    Businessmen vs. Aliens
    White Dragon

    If I changed the Match Dynamic Range back to "On" not one of the above shows will play in HDR. So leave Match Dynamic Range "Off". Also, I had no shows on my Watch List. So, basically I confirmed what John Rice stated in his post.
     
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    And don't think with that being displayed on the big screen I'm not going to have some fun with it ;)
     
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    After adjusting the settings even some more, I found the following results with a few differences between 60Hz and 24Hz::

    Format: 4K HDR 60Hz (With 4K HDR 60Hz, the "HDR" Popup appears on my LGOLED when first playing HDR)
    Chroma: 4:2:2
    Match Dynamic Range: Off
    Match Frame Rate: On


    Format: 4K HDR 24Hz (With 4K HDR 24Hz, the "HDR" Popup doesn't appear on my LGOLED, but confirm play in HDR)
    Chroma: 4:2:2
    Match Dynamic Range: Off
    Match Frame Rate: On


    Format: 4K Dolby Vision 60Hz (With 4K DV 60Hz, the "DV" Popup appears on my LGOLED when first playing DV)
    Chroma: 4:2:2
    Match Dynamic Range: Off
    Match Frame Rate: On


    Format: 4K Dolby Vision 24Hz (With 4K Dolby Vision 24Hz, the "DV" Popup doesn't appear on my LGOLED, but confirm play in DV)
    Chroma: 4:2:2
    Match Dynamic Range: Off
    Match Frame Rate: On
     
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    Robert,

    Are those settings for Matching Dynamic Range Off and Matching Frame Rate On what is recommended or is that just what you did for testing? The proper use of those settings always confuse me...
     
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    Just what I did with testing. I tried Matching Dynamic Range On and HDR nor DV would kick in. Once I turned it off then HDR and DV would activate on.
     
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    See this is where these settings get confusing - if you go back a page (post 810) John was saying it should be "on" (which was what I was under the assumption it should be), but here you are saying that with it "on" you couldn't get HDR or DV to work. Heeellppppp! ;)
     
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    Well John will have to specify as under Match Content there are two settings in which you can turn them "on" or "off" separately.

    Match Dynamic Range

    Match Frame Rate
     
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    I've been doing a little Google-Fu on the subject and I found a discussion from about a year ago where we definitely said to have it "on" to get DV to work, but your testing today shows you could only get DV with it set to "off."

    Confusion continues...

    https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/apple-tv-4k-official.354146/page-26#post-4655734
     
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    Not just DV, but HDR too. I just tried it again and Match Dynamic Range has to be "Off" for my LGOLED55C9P display to show DV or HDR.
     

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