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Apple TV 4K official

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  1. Cranston37

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    iPad Pro 2nd gen
     
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    Hmm.. I've got an iPad Pro. I don't know the generation, it was bought last Christmas. Here's what I see, the 4K moniker but no download file size.
    PR3.

    edit: Now I get it. The second gen iPad Pro came out last June and has an A10X fusion processor which supports 4K and my first gen model will not.
     
  3. Mark Booth

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    I don't know how complete this is, but here is a list of the 4K titles that are already available through iTunes.

    http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1505495519

    'Baby Driver' is on the list.

    I own 49 of the listed titles on Blu-ray that also came with iTunes digital HD copy redemption codes (thus, I own 49 of them in digital HD). Of those 49, I purchased the 4K Blu-ray for 8 of them. So, that's 41 titles that I'll now be able to watch in 4K via the new 4K Apple TV.

    Since 4K versions on Blu-ray run about $5-$8 per title more than the standard Blu-ray versions, that's $200-$300 worth of "value" that I'm getting for free just by spending $200 to add the 4K Apple TV to my equipment rack. Not to mention the forthcoming 4K versions for additional titles I already own in digital HD.

    I ordered my 4K Apple TV at 4 minutes past midnight (Pacific) on Friday morning. It is scheduled for delivery this coming Friday. I went with the 64GB version and was actually surprised to get a $5 discount by going through my employer's employee purchase plan portal (Apple frequently doesn't allow any discount on brand new products).

    With the release of the 4K Apple TV we are also going all-in on 4K HDR. Thursday night I purchased a 75" Sony XBR75X940E 4K TV. I bought it from Fry's but they were out of stock in their warehouse. They offered to deliver the floor model and then swap it when a new-in-the-box one arrives, but I decided to just wait for delivery of the fresh one. They will have it in a few days but I'll be out of town so it's being delivered in about 10 days.

    I was planning to buy the set from Best Buy Magnolia but they absolutely wouldn't budge on the price. Fry's was more accommodating. I am going to purchase the SquareTrade extended warranty through Costco once I have the serial number for the set.

    Up next (sometime in 2018), a 4K HDR projector for the Booth Bijou Garage Theater. I will also be adding 4 more speakers out there for Dolby ATMOS surround.

    Mark
     
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    My iPad Pro is running iOS 11 and now shows my library updated. I hate the movie Life of Pi but it looks terrific in HDR. My iPhone is still iOS 10. My library there still all shows HD only.

    Both my Apple TV 4k units will be here release day.
     
  5. Ted Todorov

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    Thanks for the info - I was about to complain the after all the negative reactions to the aTV 4 remote they had made it the same...
     
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    From Apple's website: Video Output: "2160p Dolby Vision and HDR10" "HDMI 2.0a"
    Does this mean you shouldn't upgrade to the new Apple TV before upgrading from your 1080P to a 4K HDTV or is it backward compatible?

    Yes there are reasons to upgrade aTV immediately: Apple Music video support; Infuse app; Amazon Video app as soon as it is released.
     
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    If your display is 1080p the ATV will output 1080p.
     
  8. Sam Posten

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    But not HDR
     
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    Yeah, HDR is a feature of 4K UHD and doesn't apply to 1080p. ;)
     
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    It just dawned on me that the Apple TV 4K only has a single HDMI output, unlike Blu-ray 4K players that give you dual HDMI outputs so that you don't have to upgrade to a 4K compatible receiver. So for those who don't have the right equipment, it's going to be really tricky to get sound and 4K together.
     
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    Yep, out of all of the popular 4K streaming boxes on the market I believe the Roku is the only one that gives you an alternative to HDMI audio (a TOSLINK optical output). Of course, if you want to take advantage of high resolution audio like DTS-HD MA, DTS:X, Dolby TrueHD, ATMOS, etc., you have to bitstream over HDMI anyway. Maybe it's time to upgrade that receiver. :)
     
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    Oh, yeah...uh...
     
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    Strange. My iPad has had upgraded films for a week. Just updated my phone to iOS 11, all movies still HD..
     
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    All mine still show HD. I guess I'm glad it's not just me.
     
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    I just saw this and thought I would share...

    "The Apple TV also automatically preferences refresh rate over any other setting: if your TV supports 60Hz HDR10 but only 30Hz Dolby Vision (like 2016 LG OLEDs), the Apple TV will pick HDR10, even though HDR10 looks worse than Dolby Vision. Apple told me that’s because it wants the interface and games to run as smoothly as possible; it’s found that the interface judders at 30Hz. So you’ll get worse HDR but a smoother interface, all because the Apple TV won’t switch modes." The Verge review
     
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    Apple also confirmed that Dolby Atmos will be added in a later software update
     
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    Anyone else having problems accessing previously purchased Movies and TV Shows on their existing Apple TV's? It keeps telling me that I have no purchased titles. I noticed that they just released TVOS 11 so I updated and still the same problem. Hopefully they are just updating their servers for tomorrow's launch or something.
     
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    The problem seems to have solved itself.
     
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    Bought mine from B.B. online (had a $200 gift card) and it still shows no delivery date.
     
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