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Apple TV 4K official

Discussion in 'Apple' started by Sam Posten, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. Sam Posten

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    Apple just announced they are upgrading all HD purchases to 4K. For Free. GAME CHANGED
     
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    What's the process to get your 4K upgrades?
     
  3. Wayne_j

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    Upgrades are automatic.
     
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    Wow! Any timing suggested? I'll be buying this new unit.
     
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    They showed clips in 4K/HDR from Spiderman homecoming so titles will probably start rolling in when the new apple tv ships on September 22.

    Btw, they say that they will support both HDR10 and DV. Also, Disney was missing from the studio logos they showed providing content.
     
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    I'm buying 3 of them and 2 for family as Christmas gifts.
     
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    I haven't been keeping track - have they finally included the Amazon app?
     
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    They just said that the Amazon app is coming.
     
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    Not a surprise. Disney is also pulling their content from Netflix in prepping the start of their own streaming service, correct?
     
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    Thanks. That's the only roadblock that's keeping me from giving ATV a try. Good to know it's at least in the works.
     
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    A few questions for whoever is familiar with Apple TV:

    1. Will HDR be supported on Amazon and Vudu when those services are available?
    2. Also, I assume the automatic upgrades of movies from HDX to UHD are only for titles purchased through iTunes, correct? This would not be available for any UltraViolet codes which have been redeemed elsewhere?
    3. Is the NHL app available on this device for streaming games?
     
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    They specified that it would be supported in Amazon. They didn't mention Vudu at all, but they added the app a week or two ago. And yes, only codes and purchases made on iTunes. I'm pretty sure the NHL app is available on this device.
     
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    The remote got a slight change. The menu button is now embedded in the track pad. The hope is the asymmetry will help you be able to tell which way is up based on feel.
     
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    The current AppleTV can't stream full bitrate MKV files. They have to be transcoded down to a lower bitrate MP4 or MV4 file.

    Will the new atv with its boosted A10X be able to stream full Dolby Atmos blu-ray quality files?
     
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    The hardware is capable of doing Atmos as it supports EAC-3, but it's not explicitly listed as having Atmos, so a future software upgrade maybe?
     
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    That would motivate me to upgrade if only to eliminate transcoding annoyances.
     
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    I'm assuming 4K iTunes movies will be streaming only via Apple TV device and not for downloading to a hard-drive, correct?
     
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    It's on their current iterations so I see no reason why it wouldn't be. I use an Apple TV now to watch NHL.TV.

    Very excited about this upgrade. I'll definitely be getting one.
     
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    Thanks for the answers, David and Wayne. One last question -- does Apple TV support IR codes for remote control? I would want to control the device with my Harmony universal remote. The lower Shield TV does not support IR remotes unless you buy an additional device.

    My Roku Ultra has been acting flaky since the last few firmware updates. Right now the issues are just with Amazon -- excessively loud volume to the point of distortion, and HDCP errors when attempting to play 4K content. The latter can be resolved by performing a reboot, but it's annoying.

    It would be nice to be able to use a single device for streaming. I currently only stream three channels -- Amazon, Vudu, and NHL.tv -- but could see using iTunes if reports of less expensive 4K UHD rentals through them are true.

    Right now, I have three different methods of streaming, and all three are missing something:
    1. Roku Ultra -- supports Amazon in 4K + HDR10 (with the issues mentioned above) and NHL, but only supports Vudu in 4K with no Dolby Vision HDR.
    2. Sony X-800 UHD player -- supports Amazon and Vudu in 4K, but no HDR support for either app. No NHL.tv
    3. Vizio M70-D3 4K display -- supports Amazon in 4K (but no HDR yet), Vudu in 4K + Dolby Vision via built-in apps. NHL, though, is only supported by the more cumbersome casting method, which requires using a smartphone or tablet to cast the app to the display.
     
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    I control mine with a Harmony Elite remote. The new model does still list an IR receiver in the specs.
     
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