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Anyone try "Ultimate 3D Collection" w/IMAX Haunted Castle & 2 more + 3D Glasses? (1 Viewer)

FrankD

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Luis,

Alternatively, if you can get a hold of a progressive DVD player and force it into video mode (as opposed to film mode) for deinterlacing then it should also work as well.

I have not tried this, as I do own a front projector, but it sounds like it should work.

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Luis M

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Frank, I am getting one progressive dvd player this weekend but I don't want to blow $80.00 bucks on this 3D set that may not work on my HD-TV, I would not enjoy the 3-D effects on my 27" tv, that's for sure.
 

MikeDE

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If you have a Fisher or Toshiba player, be warned that the title Encounters In The Third Dimension will not play. Slongshot swapped my disk for another when it didn't play on my Fisher in case it was defective, but still no go. They said that mine and Toshiba's need a chip to play it. The other two titles in this set do play, but Encounters was the one I really wanted to see.
 

GregK

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When it comes to HDTV, just remember this one Dave:

If there are those progressive users who wish to give

it a try, remember to try the various "video" progressive

video mode options found in most DVD and high def sets.

Leaving the set or player in "film" or "auto" mode will

almost certainly lead to a useless blurry mess.

"Interpolation" or "Bobbing" is the key here.
I checked out a few field-sequential 3-D DVDs on a friend's

Toshiba 65" HDTV. Using the set's "film" mode, the 3-D image

was a blurry mess. But the "video" mode interpolated when there

was motion, but sadly reverted to simple line doubling (field

meshing) on still images. But the 3-D disc we watched had plenty

of motion, so the set stayed in the interpolated mode most of the

time. Most of the time the 3-D was simply excellent! He doesn't

own a pro-scan DVD player yet, so we were unable to test any

pro-scan options from the DVD player.
 

MikeDE

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LOL at the spelling in the post I just made. It's SlIngshot who put out the disk. Slongshot sounds like it should be in the porno thread.

Mike
 

Joe Schwartz

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I checked out a few field-sequential 3-D DVDs on a friend's Toshiba 65" HDTV. Using the set's "film" mode, the 3-D image was a blurry mess. But the "video" mode interpolated when there was motion, but sadly reverted to simple line doubling (field meshing) on still images. But the 3-D disc we watched had plenty of motion, so the set stayed in the interpolated mode most of the time. Most of the time the 3-D was simply excellent!
Wait, now I'm confused. I thought "simple line doubling" did not mesh the fields together, but instead simply doubled each line in each field.
In any case, it sounds like I was too quick to rule out HDTV deinterlacers, if indeed some of them can keep each field separate in "video" mode. Thanks for the info.
 

David Lambert

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I don't see enough here recommending that the glasses won't just end up stuck in a drawer someplace, unused, after maybe the first month or maybe even week!
Who said that? *I* said that, back in post #46 of this thread.
And, yep, that's precisely what has happened. :frowning:
However, maybe there's hope yet. http://www.slingshotent.com http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=26864318&siteid=37636963&bfpid=26776&bfmtype=standard http://service.bfast.com/bfast/click?bfmid=26864318&siteid=37636963&bfpid=26775&bfmtype=standard
(You can click on those box arts for links to detailed info at DVDPlanet.) These were all released 10/22, and sell for $22.49-ish for the first two, and $14.99-ish for "Monster".
What spurred me to dig into this was noticing that DVDPlanet just listed 3 NEW items to go with this baby, and these are even MORE mainstream (cover art not yet available):
Little Shop of Horrors (1960)
Night of the Living Dead
Seven Doors of Death
The last three are due on 2/11/03, sell for $13.99-ish.
This may encourage us to dig the glasses out of the drawer and actually use them! :emoji_thumbsup:
 

Brian Kidd

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Wha? None of the latter films were shot in 3D. I have serious doubts that they've been successful in converting them. Isn't this the same thing as colorizing films? BAD DVD PRODUCERS! BAAAAADDD!!!
 

David Lambert

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Wha? None of the latter films were shot in 3D.
You sure about that? I don't have time to research this right now, nor did I think about it in the excitement of my post. I was pretty sure NotLD WAS 3-D, though, and haven't heard of 7DoD. Perhaps I mentally gave this the benefit of the doubt and shouldn't have. I definately wouldn't support retro-3D-izing films that weren't intended to be from the start!
 

David Lambert

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Hmm...the quick answer is that the IMDB listing for 3-D films doesn't list any of the six titles I just posted about.
So please everyone...just ignore me and don't get these. :thumbsdown:
I'll just wait for legit stuff like Jaws 3-D, Dial M For Murder, and House of Wax.
 

Brian Kidd

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Sorry Dave. NOTLD was most certainly NOT shot in 3D. Standard 35mm. 7 DOORS OF DEATH is a bastardized version of Lucio Fulci's THE BEYOND that has fallen into public domain. It also was not shot in 3D. Neither was LITTLE SHOP.
 

Steve Phillips

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These are nothing but public domain prints run through a field sequential processor in an "attempt" to produce a simulated 3-D effect. IT DOESN"T WORK! Anyone buying these expecting to see them in 3-D will be very mad when they see the result. There is not current technology that allows converted flat films to 3-D yet, no matter claims they make to the contrary.

None of those films were shot in 3-D. Trust me, I've made a life study of the stereoscopic cinema.

I am outraged at these people, because all they will do is make the public mad, and afraid to buy the many REAL 3-D movies on VHS and DVD in this format. There is some really effective 100% stereoscopic stuff out there; don't confuse it will this CRAP. They are just trying to generate quick cash.

I hope the marketing of this garbage doesn't keep the studios from putting out real 3-D movies in this country.

HOUSE OF WAX, DIAL M FOR MURDER, JAWS 3-D, FRIDAY THE 13TH PART 3, etc were all released in Japan on VHD videodiscs from the early 90s and we'd like to see Warner, Universal and the others get some of the good stuff out here on DVD.

There are already hundreds of real 3-D movies that can be released. We don't need flat stuff passed off as "simulated 3-D". Especially when it doesn't work.
 

Steve Phillips

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ON DVD now;

ENCOUNTERS IN THE THIRD DIMENSION

HAUNTED CASTLE

ALIEN ADVENTURE

ULTIMATE G's

HUNTING SEASON

CAMP BLOOD

ZOMBIE CHRONICLES

SORORITY VAMPIRES FROM HELL (partial 3-D)

EROTEK (XXX)

On VHS: (DVD to come)

CAMP BLOOD 2 (a flat DVD exists, 3-D VHS only)

BLOOD SISTERS (partial 3-D)

EYES OF THE WEREWOLF

V WORLD MATRIX

lots of XXX stuff

So far legitmate releases are either CGI large format films or shot on video amateur horror. On the grey market, you can find dozens of 3-D movies from the 30s to the 90s;

many are made from the Japanese VHD videodiscs released in the early 90s. Hopefully the studios will see the light soon and put out some of the 3-D catalog!

There are also a lot of anaglyph red/blue stuff (mostly downconverted from the original polariod prints) but it isn't nearly as effective. COMIN AT YA! and THE BUBBLE are on DVD from Rhino, but they field sequential versions blow them away.
 

Jesse Skeen

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The ones in the horror collection (Camp Blood, Hunting Season and Zombie Chronicles) are actually shot on video, using a 3-D video camera (the credits of one of these lists what kind it was.) These are very bad but the 3-D effect is decent. We need more REAL movies in 3-D!
 

Steve Phillips

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Anyone can shoot 3-D with the Nu View adaptors. These attach to an ordinary camcorder. It works well.

Toshiba did a pilot run of a 3-D camcorder years ago. I picked one up; it is a lot of fun. These days, the adaptors are the way to go; much cheaper and easier.
 

Steve Phillips

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Don't take that list on the IMDB as gospel (or anything else on the IMDB either). There are some things missing as well as at least one title that was announced for 3-D but ulitmately shot flat (SURF II). I'll have to take a good look when I have time but that one jumped out at me (pardon the pun).
 

Jesse Skeen

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Yeah, I think those movies were shot with the adaptors, not a dedicated 3-D camera (which is pretty hard to come by.) 3-D is the only thing those have going for them, though "Hunting Season" was kinda interesting, especially the ending.

I looked up the price of that XXX disc and it was over $30, I think I'll have to pass on that for now.
 

Darren Gross

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Any tips on where to purchase a 3-D camcorder adaptor and how much would it cost?

I'd love to start shooting some experimental 3-D films.
 

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