Anyone else notice the large sound differences between the Forrest Gump LD and Dvd??

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  1. Shane Martin

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    From what I can tell the Dvd is an obvious remix and IMHO and very poor one. Of course I pretty much expected it as I can't say I've found a dvd remix that is better than the Laserdisc counterpart.
    I'd even say that the PCM version of the LD even stomps the DVD fairly handily.
    This is quite dissapointing as the DVD has alot going for it(ie chapter stops, no side flips, and a better picture to a degree).
    Oddly for those bit rate types the LD has a lower bitrate too when it comes to the Dolby track.
     
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  3. Robert Spalding

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    Ask Tom Ryan about the way to tell if you have a good disc....D2R2, right Tom? Just kidding, [​IMG]
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    LOL, here we go again!
    Funny Robert.
    I will compare the LD and DVD when I get home, as I have both now.
     
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    *Counts to 10* :-D
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    There is nothing wrong with any of the surrounds on your Forrest Gump DVD! It's ok!!!
    [Edited last by Tom Ryan on September 04, 2001 at 03:00 PM]
     
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    I think both Tom and I both agree, this topic has been well covered. Also hope Tom isn't pissed at me anymore.
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    [Edited last by Robert Spalding on September 04, 2001 at 03:11 PM]
     
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    I wasn't ever reallllly mad....just annoyed [​IMG]. Everything is ok now.
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    There is nothing wrong with any of the surrounds on your Forrest Gump DVD! It's ok!!!
     
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    I posted this in the F.Gump Problem thread but it got buried under an edge enhancement and video transfer spat, so I ask here.
    Does anyone have any audio problems on this dvd? On Disc 1 Menu, opening sequences and the time FG and Lt Dan are in the hospital my soundtrack is very staticky/scratchy. [​IMG]
    Disc 2 sounded okay and I checked my set up with another DVD to make sure something hasn't gone haywire and it worked fine. I took the DVD to a buddy's house to see how it sounded on his system. It did the same thing. Do I have a bad disc or is this the way the movie was, I don't recall.
    Thanks.
     
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    Looks like a job for Bjoern Roy and his computer generated frequency analysis charts. [​IMG]
    [Edited last by Sean Oneil on September 05, 2001 at 05:49 AM]
     
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    DOH! How'd you get here so fast? [​IMG]
    I fixd my horrible spelling error, sorry about that [​IMG]
    [Edited last by Sean Oneil on September 05, 2001 at 05:50 AM]
     
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    Only a few more releases to go and the "LD mix sounds better than DVD" topic will finally die.
    I think I'll throw a big party.
    Get ready for the...
    Godfather DVD DD sounds worse than..
    Star Wars TPM DVD DD sounds worse than...
    And maybe...
    Star Wars Trilogy LD DVD sounds better than...
    BTW, I have compared:
    Face Off, True Lies, Clear & Present Danger, SPR, Batman Forever, Natural Born Killers, Broken Arrow.
    None sounded better to me (they didn't sound much worse either).
    Doug
     
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    Yes, I notice a difference: The ld's Pro-Logic track is ten times more enveloping than the DD dvd track with more bass also. While I really don't care about sound mixes as much as I used to, and I don't expect this film to exactly knock my socks off with its sound mix, I do expect just a tad more than this track...this one sucks.
     
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    I will NOT do a comparision to DVD DD and LD DPL. That is not my gripe with FG.
    My gripe is this: It says boldly on the box that the mix is a "Dolbly Digital * English 5.1 Surround". Which means to me that all 5 channels and the LFE channel will be utilized for the audio presentation. It is my opionion that FG doesn't. It is, at best, a 3.1 soundtrack, at worse, a 5.1 presentation with very poor surround mixing. I am a firm believer that the audio and representation should follow as closely as possible to the original (or should I say the intended) theatrical presentation. If FG was not a "surround" movie (which I doubt) then so be it.
    I also believe that the director/producer has the right to "change" either the audio or visual presentation to either a) enhance the experience or b) utilize technology not available at the time of the original movie creation. George Lucas movies come under this catagory (Star Wars Series, etc.) One particular example is his changing "American Graffiti" from the original MONO presentation to, what I would call, a psuedo-surround mix. I'm fine by it, it's his movie. This doesn't mean that I think a movie should use the surround sound mix when it's not supposed to.
    What does this all have to to with FG? It is my opionion that Paramount had the opportunity to present FG in a 5.1 surround format and either didn't do it or screwed it up.
    And's that all I have to say about that!
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