Charles J P
Senior HTF Member
Well, I'm still doing research on new vehicles. I'm going to be making a purchase mid fall this year. I started out looking at SUVs, then decided that there were too many trade offs. I like driving spiritedly and there is no sport in most all SUVs. So, now I'm looking at sport wagons. My choices so far are:
1) Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon - the most sporty of the lot, but also the most expensive. It has real verve, but I worry about reliability. There is a 14 page (or so) thread on i-club (one of the subaru forums) about first gear syncro problems and there are also complaints of check enging light problems and people say the paint is very brittle.
2) Toyota Matrix - actually this car, the Subaru and the other car I'm considering, the Mazda Protege 5 were all in a round up in Car and Driver or MotorTrend this month. I like this car so far, and it has the most space of the three. It is much bigger than it looks on paper. Kind of looks like a pimped out, dropped mini van. Any way, the engine specs are there on paper, but I've heard its doesnt quite live up to it in the real world. Its peak torque and horsepower figures are at over 6000 rpms which due to the "tuner" inspired exhaust can be quite loud. And even then, it only makes 130 lb/ft of torque.
3) Mazda Protege 5 - Well, this car is the smallest and most underpowered of all the wagons. Only has 130 HP. However, if I could roll all the refinement, build quality, and grown-up-edness of this car into one of the other two, I think I would have my car. This is the only car with leather available and doesnt have the 16 year old inspired interior.
So, the middle of the pack in price, and performance may end up winning the race, but I'm wondering if anyone has test driven the Matrix, specifically the XRS 180hp version, and if they thought it was quick or bogged down?
1) Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon - the most sporty of the lot, but also the most expensive. It has real verve, but I worry about reliability. There is a 14 page (or so) thread on i-club (one of the subaru forums) about first gear syncro problems and there are also complaints of check enging light problems and people say the paint is very brittle.
2) Toyota Matrix - actually this car, the Subaru and the other car I'm considering, the Mazda Protege 5 were all in a round up in Car and Driver or MotorTrend this month. I like this car so far, and it has the most space of the three. It is much bigger than it looks on paper. Kind of looks like a pimped out, dropped mini van. Any way, the engine specs are there on paper, but I've heard its doesnt quite live up to it in the real world. Its peak torque and horsepower figures are at over 6000 rpms which due to the "tuner" inspired exhaust can be quite loud. And even then, it only makes 130 lb/ft of torque.
3) Mazda Protege 5 - Well, this car is the smallest and most underpowered of all the wagons. Only has 130 HP. However, if I could roll all the refinement, build quality, and grown-up-edness of this car into one of the other two, I think I would have my car. This is the only car with leather available and doesnt have the 16 year old inspired interior.
So, the middle of the pack in price, and performance may end up winning the race, but I'm wondering if anyone has test driven the Matrix, specifically the XRS 180hp version, and if they thought it was quick or bogged down?