Anyone bought the JOHN HOLMES documentary EXHAUSTED?

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  1. Vince Maskeeper

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    The EXHAUSTED documentary (which was the inspiration, supposedly, of BOOGIE NIGHTS) is now available on DVD.
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    Portions of this were included on the Criterion laserdisc of Boogie Nights, but with DVD being "mainstream" the director, Julia St. Vincent, threatened to sue New Line if they included it on the DVD version of Boogie Nights released last year. I had heard NEW LINE had made a deal to include it, but everytime they settled on a price for the footage, Julia would just raise the price again.
    Anyway, the documenatary is out on DVD- produced by St. Vincent (with commentary) and distributed by MG Media. I'm curious to get my hands on the doc, mostly becuase I'd like to see what struck PT Anderson as interesting enough to create the universe of Dirk Diggler. Figured this doc would make a nice "supplement" to the Boogie Nights disc.
    Unfortunately I can only find one place on the planet that carried the disc (I do recall finding some official website for it before, where Julia went on a rant about Criterion including the footage illegally-- but repeated websearches have turned up NOTHING).
    I have searched, also, for reviews of this disc, also coming up empty. I just wonder if the image quality is so bad as to make the DVD unwatchable (which I wouldn't be suprised to find out). The only info I can find about the DVD technically is: http://us.imdb.com/DVD?0130671
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  2. Kevin Leonard

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    Excite DVD is the only place that carries the disc...here's where you can purchase it:
    http://www.excite-dvd.com/badboys.htm
    As for reviews, I only found two:
    http://dvd.ign.com/articles/302101p1.html
    http://dvdmg.com/exhausted.html
    I don't own this personally--mainly because I keep pushing it back on my purchase list--but I've seen clips of it and from the screenshots provided on the IGN review, you can tell Paul Thomas Anderson followed it pretty damn close. At least visually.
    Hope this is what you were looking for.
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  3. Mark Cappelletty

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    You perv! [​IMG]
    I rented this on LD after Boogie Nights came out and it's pretty funny/bizarre/sad. Holmes is clearly deluded about his own problems and the parallel between his real life and the reel one of Dirk Diggler is made very prominent, particularly after you see the bit set in the restaurant set. What you DIDN'T see on the Criterion LD are all of the hardcore scenes, which are a significant part of the documentary and enhance Holmes' reputation for, er, his size. It's less erotic than kind of freakish, actually-- I mean, Holmes' penis was so big that it was impossible for him to get a real erection.
    The film stops before Holmes' decline into drugs and doesn't remotely touch on the Wonderland murders or his death from AIDS. I'm curious if the "never before seen" footage on the DVD does, but not so curious that I'll rent it again.
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  4. Julian Lalor

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    Well, from that portion of the documentary which was included on the Criterion laserdisc, I won't be rushing out to buy this. Certainly, the parallels to certain incidents in "Boogie Nights" are interesting (particularly as Anderson seems to have lifted portions of the documentary and certain scenes from Homles' movies almost line for line), but the documentary itself is a poorly made hagiography of Holmes, replete with that cheesy porno music that gives library music a bad name. I'm also sure that the interesting commentaries which accompanied the documentary on the Criterion disc won't be carried over to St James' effort. This documentary is very much trading on its association with "Boogie Nights". It surely wouldn't illicit any interest otherwise.
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  5. Anthony Thorne

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    Porn fans the world over could well feel otherwise.
    I understand the doco does have a new commentary track from the folks(s?) who made it. Some less auspicious newsgroups have discussed the disc, the director and Holmes at great length (is there any other way to discuss John Holmes?) but I don't remember the details I've stumbled across nor have a huge inclination to go looking for them again. It's a little puzzling though... this disc was hyped a little on one or two of the main DVD news websites, but there's been nary a whisper or review about it since.
     
  6. Bob Movies

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    I admit it, I own this DVD.
    It's actually not bad at all. Of course, it's transferred from an old 16mm print, so it's not the greatest as far as quality goes, but it's very watchable. The quality is about equal to the segments included on the Criterion Laserdisc.
    As far as the content goes, there are more interviews that were cut from the LD, and they're pretty funny. It's pretty bizarre to see John Holmes cracking jokes and just otherwise being silly. There's also a lot of pornography that was cut from the LD, which is interesting if you want to see Holmes in action.
    I've checked out the commentary, but I haven't listened to it. It sounded pretty standard, and they were talking about boogie nights a bit, and how the filmmakers didn't like it, and how you should rent Hard Eight if you want to see a better Paul Thomas Anderson movie.
    The final interview with Holmes (previously cut) is worth seeing, due to his physical state. His health is failing, and he looks like a wreck, but he's still joking, and pretty good natured.
    One warning: I ordered this from excite-dvd.com and they charged my credit card three times. I was unable to have them remove the charges, and I eventually had to write a letter to my credit card company to convince them I never ordered the other discs. I was assured they changed credit card carriers or something like that, but the whole thing was a bit shifty.
    Overall, it's not the greatest disc in my collection, but as a boogie nights companion, it's excellent!
    ~Bob
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  7. Jeremy Illingworth

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    I am very interested in this disc as well as his book but I hear there are inconsistencies between the two as well as real life. What are the Wonderland murders? Is there an online resource where I can read more about his life?
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  8. Vince Maskeeper

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    quote: One warning: I ordered this from excite-dvd.com and they charged my credit card three times. I was unable to have them remove the charges, and I eventually had to write a letter to my credit card company to convince them I never ordered the other discs. I was assured they changed credit card carriers or something like that, but the whole thing was a bit shifty.[/quote]
    Ugh. Well, for anyone wanting the disc, excite-dvd.com is charging a lot more than these guys: http://www.gamelink.com/gl/description.asp?src=gl&mall=st&spd=&custID=39575596&cn=OAICNPDNUNPFULCRXF&ref=inkt_Julia%20St.%20Vincent&head=&selection=&deptname=&departmentID=&t i tle=EXHAUSTED+%28DVD%29&prodID=61987
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  9. Prentice Cotham

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    Vince,
    Try www.dvdadvantage.com for the DVD. I'm fairly sure they have this one and they always have coupons (10% off any DVD right now)...not that I ever look at the sight. ;-)
     
  10. Mark_Wilson

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    http://www.lasersedge.com/ carries this. It may not be listed on their web site so you may want to email them. It was pretty inexpensive if I remember correctly.
     
  11. Mark Lee

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    Check out this E! Online article, which summarizes the rise and fall (pun intended) of Johnny Wadd.
    http://www.eonline.com/Features/Features/Boogie/Holmes/
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    I have a review disc of Boogie Nights:SE which includes the segment from "Exhausted"...I have to wonder if there is anything about the full-length (ha ha) version that makes it worthy of a purchase?
    - Steve
     
  13. Enrique B Chamorro

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    I will come out and say that I have have the Exhausted DVD.
    I love the movie Boggie Nights, so I have the following;
    Boogie Nights SE DVD (2 discs)
    Boogie Nights SE LD by Criterion with the edited Exhausted
    and commentary by PT Anderson
    Boogie Nights DTS LD
    Boogie Nights CD vol. 2
    If you have the Criterion LD, you may want to pass on Exhausted.
    It has all of the very hard core, poorly acted, 70 music
    sections still in it and may not be your cup of tea.
    The commentary track by director Julia St. Vincent, producer Bob Chinn and Gloria Leonard is very insightful, both about the porn industry at the time and their feelings about the movie Boogie Nights.
    The disc does not have the commentary by PT Anderson, that is only on the laser disc.
    The Exhausted DVD also has an unedited long interview between John and Julia and you can see the problems John was having.
    The DVD also has some photos of Julia's diary during the time the movie was being made. Julia had very strong feelings about John at the time and for some of the photos her current voice plays and she makes some comments. You can tell she still has some hurt left after all this time.
    The disc can be a very useful supplement for Boogie Nights,
    but just for people who love Boogie Nights.
     

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