Any upcoming DVD players going to give RP91 a run for its money?

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Carlo Medina, Jul 30, 2001.

  1. Carlo Medina

    Carlo Medina Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 1997
    Messages:
    10,450
    Likes Received:
    651
    I am auditioning an RP91 and it will cost me about $480 to keep. There are some things about it that bug me (clicking noise when skipping around chapters & searching, no time remaining for DVD-V, no audio bit rate display, no default to 5.1 soundtrack option) but there are many, many things that are so right with this player:
    1. Scaling of non-anamorphic DVDs
    2. DVD-Audio
    3. Excellent sounding DACs w/ using 5.1 audio outs
    4. Great picture
    5. Great progressive scan performance
    6. No chroma bug
    7. Very little combing when using progressive scan
    I have about a week left to decide whether to keep it or not and was wondering about any sub-$700 players that are out on the horizon that might compete with it. I know the Denon 2800 is supposed to be great with its doubler, HDCD & SACD but the non-anamorphic scaling won't be there.
    Is there anything coming out within the next 3-6 months that would make me regret this purchase? I've been a Sony fan all my DVD life, but short of the 9000ES (can't afford it) none of their new crop of players can compete with the RP91.
    Thanks in advance!
    ------------------
    My dealer of choice (especially if you live in So-Cal, I highly recommend them): www.yawaonline.com
     
  2. Carlo Medina

    Carlo Medina Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 1997
    Messages:
    10,450
    Likes Received:
    651
    Yikes! Looks like this was double-posted while the HTF was having probs. Please feel free to delete the other thread.
    By the way, I've noticed that Philips has the new DVD-Q50AT coming out that uses a 12-bit video DAC and the Sage/Faroudja deinterlacer and will retail for around $500. Anyone had a chance to check out one of these (advanced screening if it's not commercially available yet)?
    Thanks!
    ------------------
    My dealer of choice (especially if you live in So-Cal, I highly recommend them): www.yawaonline.com
     
  3. Jeremy Hegna

    Jeremy Hegna Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2000
    Messages:
    812
    Likes Received:
    0
    Carlo,
    Kenwood also has a new line of DVD players including mega changers that utilize the Faroudja technology.
    If they're not available now, they should be soon. There are other players with other useful bells and whistles that the RP-91 doesn't have. It all depends on what your needs are, I suppose.
    Jeremy
     
  4. Phil Nichols

    Phil Nichols Second Unit

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2000
    Messages:
    345
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't know about the RP91 audio performance, but reading about what it does with it's zooms/scaling and then comparing this to what the new Malata DVD-N966 spec says leads me to believe that the Malata bests the RP91 in at least this area:
    The DVD-N966 does not have the chroma bug (Mediamatics deinterlacer) and permits two types of image shaping:
    1) Pixel level zooming while maintaining aspect ratio
    or
    2) Pixel level independent X-Y image height and width adjustment
    The above two in combination sound just like what PC paint and photo touchup PC software has been able to do for years, so you should be able to make any interlaced or progressive image look any way you want on your screen - 4X3, non-anamorphic widescreen, and even anamorphic widescreen.
    ------------------
    Phil N.
     
  5. Paul_Psutka

    Paul_Psutka Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2001
    Messages:
    115
    Likes Received:
    0
    what about the new Panasonic RP61 coming out in August that is less than 1/2 the price of the RP91?
    It too will have DVD-Audio capability and Progressive scan outputs.
     
  6. Max Leung

    Max Leung Producer

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2000
    Messages:
    4,611
    Likes Received:
    0
    The RP61 doesn't have the scaling feature. At least, that's what everybody says.
     
  7. Carlo Medina

    Carlo Medina Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 1997
    Messages:
    10,450
    Likes Received:
    651
    Jeremy,
    The Kenwood players (multichangers) are coming in at $1200 and $1500 MSRP. That's way out of my price range. I'm looking at $500 street price (around $700 MSRP) and lower. The Philips will MSRP around $500 and can probably be had for around $400.
    Don't have any idea what the Malata runs for, I'll have to do some 'net research on that player.
    Keep 'em coming!
    ------------------
    My dealer of choice (especially if you live in So-Cal, I highly recommend them): www.yawaonline.com
     
  8. Eugene Hsieh

    Eugene Hsieh Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1997
    Messages:
    550
    Likes Received:
    0
    I saw a Malata in the store a while back. It reminded me of my Apex, which is a piece of crap in some ways. The quality and ergonomics truly is poor on the Apex, but I keep it because it has a bazillion features. I can say nothing of the build quality of the Malata since I didn't actually demo it or anything, but the vibe it gave me was not good. Looked definitely rough around the edges.
    Hoever, I hope the Malata isn't the same mediocre quality of the Apex 600A. If it's a good machine and esp. if it does MP3, maybe I'll replace my Apex. The RP91 will remain my primary machine however.
    That said, the RP91 doesn't seem very sturdy either (although pretty slick). I would have paid an extra US$50 for heavier duty parts.
    ------------------
    Eugene Hsieh, VisorCentral FAQ Editor
    1000 km on a tank of gas??? Check out the Prius and drive the future now!
     
  9. Carlo Medina

    Carlo Medina Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 1997
    Messages:
    10,450
    Likes Received:
    651
    I guess you don't own Sony DVD players because the RP91 weighs more than the DVP-S560D I own and the new DVP-N700P I'm auditioning! So to me the build quality of the RP91 is good (solid tray mechanism as well in comparison to the Sonys). Of course it's not built like the DVP-7000, but not many of today's mass-market players are.
    Didn't know the Malata was a pseudo-apex. If I wanted those features I'd probably spring for a Skyworth and get region-selection as well (may do that as a secondary player).
    I'm just looking for the best progressive player that is slated to come out in the next few months that might unseat the RP91 as far as progressive quality and 3:2 pulldown are concerned (and hopefully do some form of non-anamorphic scaling like the RP91 does). Basically I just don't want to plop down $500 now to find that in 3-6 months I'm pissed at not waiting for a player. Of course in a year or so they'll have an awesome player but I won't mind if I get a good year or so use out of the RP91. It's just the 3-6 month window that would annoy me.
    ------------------
    My dealer of choice (especially if you live in So-Cal, I highly recommend them): www.yawaonline.com
     
  10. John Tillman

    John Tillman Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 1999
    Messages:
    595
    Likes Received:
    0
    Carlo:
    Just count how many non anamorphic discs are in you collection and figure out how much $ it would take to buy the new improved version (when they come out).
    The RP-91 is my second player in 3.5 years. There are plenty of people that have gone through a half dozen players in that time. Chill out... Why is it necessary to have the cusp of wave at all times?
    The RP-91 is a fine machine that will go far. My original DVL-91 is now my laser disc player, still to get use.
    At sub $500... this is a no brainer [​IMG].
     
  11. Carlo Medina

    Carlo Medina Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 1997
    Messages:
    10,450
    Likes Received:
    651
     
  12. Joseph S

    Joseph S Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 1999
    Messages:
    2,862
    Likes Received:
    0
     
  13. Steve_D

    Steve_D Second Unit

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 1999
    Messages:
    299
    Likes Received:
    0
    Kenwood and Phillips, as mentioned before, both have new players coming to market. I'm most excited about the Phillips SACD962, with SACD and the Faroujda/Sage chips for processing and de-interlacing. I expect a street price of around $800 or so.
    ------------------
    http://www.sdiver.org
     
  14. KeithH

    KeithH Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2000
    Messages:
    9,413
    Likes Received:
    0
    Carlo, you said:
     
  15. ThomasL

    ThomasL Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2001
    Messages:
    963
    Likes Received:
    0
    Carlo, Toshiba will also be releasing the SD4700 and 5700 in a month or two. I know nothing about them other than the fact that they are progressive scan and should both come in under $500.
    cheers,
    --tom
     
  16. Carlo Medina

    Carlo Medina Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 1997
    Messages:
    10,450
    Likes Received:
    651
    Thanks for the tip on the Toshibas. Didn't really like my old 2006 but that was one of the first gen players and had some pretty nice features. Will have to do more research on those.
    Please keep the suggestions coming!
    ------------------
    My dealer of choice (especially if you live in So-Cal, I highly recommend them): www.yawaonline.com
     
  17. Dakota_D

    Dakota_D Extra

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2001
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    I too would like to now about upcoming progressive scan dvd players. I like the RP91, but am looking at options for another year. I can wait for about 3 months if possible, but....
    Do all the new DVD Players come out in the fall? I have noticed that many new TVS are coming out and wondering about this? Does someone know.
    I am also curious about the Pana DVD-CP71? Is it available yet, and how much does it cost? It is a 5 disc dvd player, progressive scan, but doesnt look like it plays mp3s. Can someone compare this with the RP91?
    I found this link to it with photo/features? Any others out there please post. http://www.geocities.com/chuckster04...l?985394992370
    Thanks
     
  18. Tom Johnson

    Tom Johnson Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 1998
    Messages:
    158
    Likes Received:
    0
    As I've mentioned several times in various threads, the DVD-CP71 is not going to exist this year. Most new DVD players are introduced at the January CES. There are some models introduced in the 3rd and 4th quarters, but they are in the minority.
     
  19. Robert Whitehead

    Robert Whitehead Auditioning

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 1999
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    The Denon 2800 does NOT have DVD-A. The new Kenwoods do not have the scaling capabilities of the RP91. The Philips Q50, which uses the Sage/Faroudja chip, does have RP91 like scaing capabilites, but does not have DVD-A.
     
  20. Eugene Hsieh

    Eugene Hsieh Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1997
    Messages:
    550
    Likes Received:
    0
     

Share This Page